View Full Version : New wall in turn 6 at Oakhill

Tom Thompson
02-25-2003, 12:22 AM
There is a new tire wall in turn 6. I have run off there before and was able to return to the track. Can't do that now. 'Had to ditch the bike or hit the wall. I know there is a tree... couldn't the wall be smaller just to protect from tree impact?

Other riders had the same problem. Any thoughts, other than "stay on the track" /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif

02-25-2003, 04:47 AM
This isn't a slam, I promise, but if I can remember the tree placement correctly what
are you doing running off there? The tree's are
straight or a bit to the right. You'd have to not
even be making a effort to turn in. And actually the whole area is much smaller then it was
before. We trimmed back / cut down several tree's
from that area. The only new wall I can think of is before the turn in point and it needs
to be long enough to stand up by itself.


Tom Thompson
02-25-2003, 08:14 AM
When I ran off my front lever was taken off by a rider turning in while passing on the right. As you can imagine...That makes braking impossible. Now do you understand?

Why not a "V" shaped protective wall? I could have missed that easily. It would Stand up better.

Seriously...you have never run off in 6. (Down-hill off-camber)

Chuck Ergle
02-25-2003, 09:00 AM
That tire wall covers a rather large tree, some stumps from a tree or two we cut down, debris, and rocks. It was as small as we could make it and still cover these things from the possible entry angles we could figure.

Tom Thompson
02-25-2003, 09:44 AM
OK, Thanks for you reply. I need to be totally solid on this turn and enter more from the outside probably. That way riders attempting a pass will take an inside line. Crap! Now I'm going to be punted off the track!

marcus mcbain
03-04-2003, 01:53 PM
Hey guys,

I have run off there twice. I once lowsided and just crashed straight as I tucked the front under brakes, and the other I got punted off the track in a 600SS race from an inside stuff by Larry Locklear. On the later, I was able to stand the bike up and run off the track without crashing. With the new tire wall, it would not be possible. Troy Green ran off the track in six in front of me and HAD to lock up the front to induce a lowside or he would have hit the tirewall at almost full speed and possibly launched over the the wall into the tree. It was ugly.

OK, I am opening my big fat mouth, so I will bring two volunteers with me to reduce the tire exposure (under the diretion of the CMRA) so that a racer has a chance to "run it out" rather than be forced to "ditch it".

Let me know,

Brooks Gremmels
03-04-2003, 02:29 PM
Whoa, big fella. Give us a chance to take a look at the situation before we get some well intentioned volunteers involved.
We were told about Troy's experience and that was all it took to get our attention. The idea is to balance rider safety with common sense. I promise that before we race again at OHR, every consideration will be given to his equation.
Thanks to all of you for the heads-up and offer to help. You will probably get that chance before long.

Tom Thompson
03-04-2003, 04:14 PM
Thanks Marcus and Brooks. I am positive I would not have crashed if the wall was smaller or not there. I certainly don't want anyones life to be in danger just because I don't like the new wall. You guys know more about the safety issues than I. Sorry you had the same misfortune, Troy.

03-05-2003, 12:48 AM
I'm a big fan of attacking directly the root of a problem... Suggest cutting the raggedy old tree down flush with the ground.

03-05-2003, 12:52 AM
I'd be happy to help. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif

Tom Thompson
03-05-2003, 11:10 AM
Hey! That's one of my talents! I grew up the son of a Tree Surgeon. 'Have all the tools of the trade and talent to boot! If you guys supply the muscle to haul off the tree. I'll surgically remove it! Excuse the reference, I'm in the medical field and work on people now....NOT WITH CHAIN SAWS THOUGH!

03-05-2003, 07:13 PM
That was the main reason we didn't cut it down.

It's very large. You're going to need allot of
muscle/bodies to haul it off.

Linz was more then willing with the chain saw but there wasn't enough will to haul off the aftermath.

If Ya'll are willing though I'm sure you can work something out with the BOD.

May want to get Daryls input also as were
to dispose of the remains.

Troy Green
03-06-2003, 12:17 AM
well yes I did run off in turn 6 and ended up crashing trying to not hit the tire wall. I was at the very edge of the tire wall and there was nothing behind the tires in my path that would have cause harm (well until I got to the fence). I would love to see the tree removed and the tire fence moved back down to the Barbed wire fence.
My hand is still banged up from the crash so I can't offer much in the way of muscle (not much even with two good hands anyway).
But I do have access to a Stump Grinding machine (my brother Rob has one), so once the tree is gone we could cut the stump down a foot under the surface.

If the tree can go away before the next race I will make sure the stump grinder shows up on Friday before the race.

let me know by phone or e-mail to make sure.

Troy Green

Norm McDonald
03-11-2003, 01:49 PM
I talked to Darryl last night Darryl said we could take the tree down and move the tire wall back to the fence. So who is going to do it and when? Norm

marcus mcbain
03-11-2003, 05:40 PM
Sorry Norm, I couldn't hear you from all the crickets... /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif

Sign me up on any non-CMRA/WERA/RideSmart weekend.


Tom Thompson
03-11-2003, 09:45 PM
Does anyone have and estimate on the diameter of the tree. I'll gladly cut it down and cut it up. I want to know if my saw is big enough. (20 inch bar)

Any one want to help. Let's do it after TWS.

03-12-2003, 01:50 PM
Tree on the outside of T6 and T3 both need to come down. I will help with either/both. Let me know.

Todd Smtih

Tom Thompson
03-13-2003, 02:30 PM
Good Troy Green said He could get the stumps ground down below groung level...that wouuld be excellent. I cut cut them very close to ground level. The tree at turn 6 is fairly small right? I can't remember how big the tree in turn 6 is. Anybody know?

Todd you are in Tyler, right? I live in Lindale we can get together after TWS. We need help hauling the trees away.

Linz Leard
03-14-2003, 08:37 AM
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Emmett Dibble:
Linz was more then willing with the chain saw but there wasn't enough will to haul off the aftermath.</div></div>I'm going to need a bigger chainsaw...I know where to get one. Let me know when this is happening - like perhaps the Friday before the next OH race weekend. That'll make us nice and sore for Saturday's races. Which is a good thing!


03-14-2003, 11:52 PM
Let me know when. I got me uh axe.

03-21-2003, 11:29 PM
Count me in on both trees (3 & 6). I have a 20 Stihl. I will be riding at OHR this weekend and will try to measure up the stituation for everyone. Todd lets get us a tree.

Tom Thompson
03-26-2003, 10:17 PM
MAN!!! I stopped and checked out the tree situation. My saw is definately too small. The tree in T-6 is 4 1/2 feet in diameter. It is dead and will be easier to push over with a dozer. I don't know anyone that has a saw big enough for that tree! The one mentioned in T-3 is about the same size...dead, too. The wall could easily be "V" shaped to protect from tree impact and thus allowing run off room. If anyone has a saw that will cut this big of a tree...I'll gladly help haul it off! My saw is only 20 inches.

03-26-2003, 11:09 PM
Tom is right there both big trees. but with enough help and the right equipment it could be done.Count me in.

03-26-2003, 11:37 PM
Saw... we don't need no stinking saw... let's see some race fuel, and flick, flick, a match... woooosh.. /ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/eek.gif

Seriously if someone figures this out, count me in.


Tom Thompson
03-27-2003, 08:31 AM

04-01-2003, 04:43 PM
Wow......Oak Hill now has issues with walls....whats next?