Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Originally posted by Mark Novak:
Thanks for all the info Eric. I appreciate the time you took to get it out there.
and I can no longer be called couch racer,I have already been out once this year (track day, but its a start), and we are in the process of getting a motor squared for the six hour next month. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] gifford will be so proud. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
Time will tell on the affiliation, I'll show up regardless of which way it goes. I trust the BOD to do what is best for every racer.
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Originally posted by Mark Novak:
Thanks for all the info Eric. I appreciate the time you took to get it out there.
and I can no longer be called couch racer,I have already been out once this year (track day, but its a start), and we are in the process of getting a motor squared for the six hour next month. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] gifford will be so proud. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
Time will tell on the affiliation, I'll show up regardless of which way it goes. I trust the BOD to do what is best for every racer.
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
eric, thanks for the straight forward answers
marcus, so this type thing is kinda like the stock market huh? you won't know what you have for several years but it could be promising? I'm glad I'm not on the BOD to make any decisions like this. In the end I guess our chosen ones will do what is best for us..... either way we will be there to race and have a good time. we have one of the best series there is, i personally think ,and I'll be in it till the end along with anyone else i can get to join me in the fun and competition the cmra provides. Maybe one day I'll be where you are marcus and enjoy the competition at that level.
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
eric, thanks for the straight forward answers
marcus, so this type thing is kinda like the stock market huh? you won't know what you have for several years but it could be promising? I'm glad I'm not on the BOD to make any decisions like this. In the end I guess our chosen ones will do what is best for us..... either way we will be there to race and have a good time. we have one of the best series there is, i personally think ,and I'll be in it till the end along with anyone else i can get to join me in the fun and competition the cmra provides. Maybe one day I'll be where you are marcus and enjoy the competition at that level.
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Originally posted by Marcus McBain:
So it is going to be Roshambo or not? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [/QB]
Nah, Roshambo is retired before it ever started. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
We are Deadhorse this year. Myself, Jack Giescke, and Frank Springett will be running the mini's for the most part this year, and if money is there we'll be rolling chicanes in the endurance.
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Originally posted by Marcus McBain:
So it is going to be Roshambo or not? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [/QB]
Nah, Roshambo is retired before it ever started. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
We are Deadhorse this year. Myself, Jack Giescke, and Frank Springett will be running the mini's for the most part this year, and if money is there we'll be rolling chicanes in the endurance.
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Originally posted by Brooks Gremmels:
Marcus,
No offense, but if you identify the users of the BBS as a group other than the one which would benefit ......
Scott
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Originally posted by Brooks Gremmels:
Marcus,
No offense, but if you identify the users of the BBS as a group other than the one which would benefit ......
Scott
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Whew, this thread got popular since yesterday! Haven't read past page two, but I just wanted to say to Ty that I haven't been in serious endurance racing in a while and you have good point there. The money in endurance can help to keep costs down for more than first place. But, I sprint minis and at best 125s and 125 doesn't have squat for contingencies. I was supposed to have won money at a WERA national a few years ago, never saw squat of it. That's not unusual. Hell, if and when I ever place well enough in 125 even when there are contingencies, there's usually not enough entries to qualify, LOL! It takes WAY more money in 125 to actually have a winning motorcycle for a fat, old guy than any contingency could help pay for, so I got more serious about minis. They're cheaper, a lot cheaper, though I'm beginning to wonder about my sanity with my latest XR120 project. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
In sprints, all the contingencies are with 600, the SV classes, the big bikes. 125 don't get squat. Most other classes don't get squat. The SV is probably the most cost effective if you really want contingencies, but I'll pass. I'm what Marcus calls a "tweener" I guess. I'm not that serious about it, like to win when I can, but I'm not willing to spend my retirement on it. I think I am about your average sprinting expert in CMRA. I'm not a fast guy, not a novice, not in it for glory (get real, I'm 50 years old), but I just so love the sport I just can't give it up until I can no longer swing a leg. I've been doing it off and on my whole adult life and because I truly love it. Sure ain't for the money!!!!! So, I've found the way I've done it to be more cost effective and that doesn't include contingencies because there are none in my classes.
However, thank you Ty for shedding light on another angle of it. And, too, there are those unlike me that aren't thrilled by minis or 125s, like horsepower, and for them the cost is there and if they can get something back out of it, well, yeah, I can certainly understand that. So, I suppose for those guys contingencies ARE important even in sprints, at least if they are fast enough to cash in on them once in a while. I'm thinking of guys like Gifford, Falt, and such. But, then, didn't I say the top guys before? Hmm. Well, anyway, they do count in this debate. I don't often shape my opinions around big bike endurance, either, cause I don't run it much. But, that is a very important venue for CMRA and your points there are well taken.
Re: What do you get from an affiliation?
Whew, this thread got popular since yesterday! Haven't read past page two, but I just wanted to say to Ty that I haven't been in serious endurance racing in a while and you have good point there. The money in endurance can help to keep costs down for more than first place. But, I sprint minis and at best 125s and 125 doesn't have squat for contingencies. I was supposed to have won money at a WERA national a few years ago, never saw squat of it. That's not unusual. Hell, if and when I ever place well enough in 125 even when there are contingencies, there's usually not enough entries to qualify, LOL! It takes WAY more money in 125 to actually have a winning motorcycle for a fat, old guy than any contingency could help pay for, so I got more serious about minis. They're cheaper, a lot cheaper, though I'm beginning to wonder about my sanity with my latest XR120 project. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
In sprints, all the contingencies are with 600, the SV classes, the big bikes. 125 don't get squat. Most other classes don't get squat. The SV is probably the most cost effective if you really want contingencies, but I'll pass. I'm what Marcus calls a "tweener" I guess. I'm not that serious about it, like to win when I can, but I'm not willing to spend my retirement on it. I think I am about your average sprinting expert in CMRA. I'm not a fast guy, not a novice, not in it for glory (get real, I'm 50 years old), but I just so love the sport I just can't give it up until I can no longer swing a leg. I've been doing it off and on my whole adult life and because I truly love it. Sure ain't for the money!!!!! So, I've found the way I've done it to be more cost effective and that doesn't include contingencies because there are none in my classes.
However, thank you Ty for shedding light on another angle of it. And, too, there are those unlike me that aren't thrilled by minis or 125s, like horsepower, and for them the cost is there and if they can get something back out of it, well, yeah, I can certainly understand that. So, I suppose for those guys contingencies ARE important even in sprints, at least if they are fast enough to cash in on them once in a while. I'm thinking of guys like Gifford, Falt, and such. But, then, didn't I say the top guys before? Hmm. Well, anyway, they do count in this debate. I don't often shape my opinions around big bike endurance, either, cause I don't run it much. But, that is a very important venue for CMRA and your points there are well taken.
