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You are wrong Jess. Some of us _were_ at the open board meeting. And some of us do try to help, and volunteer (extra corner working), donate, stay late and help the staff pack after events even. That latter certainly puts some of us in a minority. Not everyone who takes issue with something is a worthless whiner.
You are wrong Jess. Some of us _were_ at the open board meeting. And some of us do try to help, and volunteer (extra corner working), donate, stay late and help the staff pack after events even. That latter certainly puts some of us in a minority. Not everyone who takes issue with something is a worthless whiner.
Jess not sure if your on the BOD but it sounds like you speak for them. Jess if you call being told in a public form at least 10 times you will not be expert. You spend alot of money and time to make sure you stay with in the rules that the BOD has made. Then a month later in a blink of an eye the rules get thrown out I think you would be upset to. Jess lets get one thing straight I have donated thousands of dollars, many hours of my personal time and chased lots of donations all to make this club better for you and other members. I dont agree with this rulling and now Im an outcast,a whinner,a problem member [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] This truly hurts my feelings [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] So Jees take your trophys and all my donations and stik them straight up your A-- [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] TIIIMMMMY
Jess not sure if your on the BOD but it sounds like you speak for them. Jess if you call being told in a public form at least 10 times you will not be expert. You spend alot of money and time to make sure you stay with in the rules that the BOD has made. Then a month later in a blink of an eye the rules get thrown out I think you would be upset to. Jess lets get one thing straight I have donated thousands of dollars, many hours of my personal time and chased lots of donations all to make this club better for you and other members. I dont agree with this rulling and now Im an outcast,a whinner,a problem member [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] This truly hurts my feelings [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] So Jees take your trophys and all my donations and stik them straight up your A-- [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] TIIIMMMMY
what I truly find to be a problem is the way in which the BOD or atleast the people who answer question in this forum claim to represent the BOD feel they should comunicate with members when they have a complait or question. I think a part of the responcibility of the people in charge is to not use inflamatory language to the members of this club. if your tired of hearing the same old questions then maybe it's time to abdigate your seat on the BOD and make room for people who understand the every yaer the club is going to have new member with the same questions as the new members last year. and these stances that anyone who does not just step in line is some how a bad member is truely sad. of course members are going to fight for there self intrest. last time I heard we don't have a union rep. then BOD on this forum and any other staff of the cmra should be working to be a calming force and the voice of reason as any choice they make should not have been fueled out of emotion but out of the best intrest of the club.
As to the topic at hand. moveing up more people after seting the list for the year over a month ago I do not think is fair. if you feel theses people would be better served as experts contact these people and ask them to move up. change the policy for next year to move up more people and have the rule book reflect that. personaly I think more people in the expert grids would be a good thing, but they way it's being gone about is bad.
btw I did vote, I could not make the banquet as I have a prior engagment and I have been and will be in the future more then willing to offer my help to our staff.
what I truly find to be a problem is the way in which the BOD or atleast the people who answer question in this forum claim to represent the BOD feel they should comunicate with members when they have a complait or question. I think a part of the responcibility of the people in charge is to not use inflamatory language to the members of this club. if your tired of hearing the same old questions then maybe it's time to abdigate your seat on the BOD and make room for people who understand the every yaer the club is going to have new member with the same questions as the new members last year. and these stances that anyone who does not just step in line is some how a bad member is truely sad. of course members are going to fight for there self intrest. last time I heard we don't have a union rep. then BOD on this forum and any other staff of the cmra should be working to be a calming force and the voice of reason as any choice they make should not have been fueled out of emotion but out of the best intrest of the club.
As to the topic at hand. moveing up more people after seting the list for the year over a month ago I do not think is fair. if you feel theses people would be better served as experts contact these people and ask them to move up. change the policy for next year to move up more people and have the rule book reflect that. personaly I think more people in the expert grids would be a good thing, but they way it's being gone about is bad.
btw I did vote, I could not make the banquet as I have a prior engagment and I have been and will be in the future more then willing to offer my help to our staff.
From Jess Johnson: [/QUOTE]"The feedback streaming in now is from a vocal minority (4 or 5 people) who A) didn't show up to the open meeting and B) are directly affected by the decision. I've learned in the last few years on the BOD that the vocal minority USUALLY complain only out of self interest. Those who are most productive send in suggestions and offer their help."
Nothing like inflammatory unfounded statements from a BOD member.
B) I am not affected by this decision to THROW OUT THE RULE BOOK, and do what the BOD wants to do. Many of the posts here are pointing out the fact that the BOD has told members NO to their requests for changes, etc., in the recent past, and sited the RULEBOOK as set in stone. (With the put 'your request in for rule changes for next yr' slogan in place)
Like others posting here I have donated my time at Oakhill to improve a track that I nor the CMRA owns. I have worked for free promoting the club at the CMRA booth a cycleshows, and TX Stadium. I have donated items for auction at many awards banquets. I have provided a free spot on my endurance team for three yrs to a young up and coming CMRA racer. I have donated $$$ to the air fence fund, etc., etc., blah blah blah. But according to Jess I have done nothing but complain for self interest(s).
Generalizations: PRICELESS.
TIMMMY: WELCOME TO EXPERT SUKA!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :p
From Jess Johnson: [/QUOTE]"The feedback streaming in now is from a vocal minority (4 or 5 people) who A) didn't show up to the open meeting and B) are directly affected by the decision. I've learned in the last few years on the BOD that the vocal minority USUALLY complain only out of self interest. Those who are most productive send in suggestions and offer their help."
Nothing like inflammatory unfounded statements from a BOD member.
B) I am not affected by this decision to THROW OUT THE RULE BOOK, and do what the BOD wants to do. Many of the posts here are pointing out the fact that the BOD has told members NO to their requests for changes, etc., in the recent past, and sited the RULEBOOK as set in stone. (With the put 'your request in for rule changes for next yr' slogan in place)
Like others posting here I have donated my time at Oakhill to improve a track that I nor the CMRA owns. I have worked for free promoting the club at the CMRA booth a cycleshows, and TX Stadium. I have donated items for auction at many awards banquets. I have provided a free spot on my endurance team for three yrs to a young up and coming CMRA racer. I have donated $$$ to the air fence fund, etc., etc., blah blah blah. But according to Jess I have done nothing but complain for self interest(s).
Generalizations: PRICELESS.
TIMMMY: WELCOME TO EXPERT SUKA!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :p