Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Originally posted by Todd E. Gyure:
From Jess Johnson:
"The feedback streaming in now is from a vocal minority (4 or 5 people) who A) didn't show up to the open meeting and B) are directly affected by the decision. I've learned in the last few years on the BOD that the vocal minority USUALLY complain only out of self interest. Those who are most productive send in suggestions and offer their help."
Nothing like inflammatory unfounded statements from a BOD member.
B) I am not affected by this decision to THROW OUT THE RULE BOOK, and do what the BOD wants to do. Many of the posts here are pointing out the fact that the BOD has told members NO to their requests for changes, etc., in the recent past, and sited the RULEBOOK as set in stone. (With the put 'your request in for rule changes for next yr' slogan in place)
Like others posting here I have donated my time at Oakhill to improve a track that I nor the CMRA owns. I have worked for free promoting the club at the CMRA booth a cycleshows, and TX Stadium. I have donated items for auction at many awards banquets. I have provided a free spot on my endurance team for three yrs to a young up and coming CMRA racer. I have donated $$$ to the air fence fund, etc., etc., blah blah blah. But according to Jess I have done nothing but complain for self interest(s).
Generalizations: PRICELESS.
TIMMMY: WELCOME TO EXPERT SUKA!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :p [/QUOTE]
Man Todd you kill me! I did post "USUALLY" in my generalization statement because there is 20% of the people who don't qualify. Guess you might be the 1 out of this group of 5 or 6! There's always someone who has a legit beef. My anecdotal evidence is from my experience over the last 3 years on the BOD, and 10+ years with the TSBA and CMRA.
You are acting like this decision to promote the additional riders is a violation of the rulebook. All the rulebook says is that the BOD will determine the number of riders to promote. Riders with an index above the annouced number will be automatically promoted. We revised the announced number in response to the member meeting, as well as take a look at a few other people who we felt fell through the rider index crack.
We also don't have a good system for promoting people out of the endurance-only crowd. How should we handle them?
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Originally posted by Todd E. Gyure:
From Jess Johnson:
"The feedback streaming in now is from a vocal minority (4 or 5 people) who A) didn't show up to the open meeting and B) are directly affected by the decision. I've learned in the last few years on the BOD that the vocal minority USUALLY complain only out of self interest. Those who are most productive send in suggestions and offer their help."
Nothing like inflammatory unfounded statements from a BOD member.
B) I am not affected by this decision to THROW OUT THE RULE BOOK, and do what the BOD wants to do. Many of the posts here are pointing out the fact that the BOD has told members NO to their requests for changes, etc., in the recent past, and sited the RULEBOOK as set in stone. (With the put 'your request in for rule changes for next yr' slogan in place)
Like others posting here I have donated my time at Oakhill to improve a track that I nor the CMRA owns. I have worked for free promoting the club at the CMRA booth a cycleshows, and TX Stadium. I have donated items for auction at many awards banquets. I have provided a free spot on my endurance team for three yrs to a young up and coming CMRA racer. I have donated $$$ to the air fence fund, etc., etc., blah blah blah. But according to Jess I have done nothing but complain for self interest(s).
Generalizations: PRICELESS.
TIMMMY: WELCOME TO EXPERT SUKA!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :p [/QUOTE]
Man Todd you kill me! I did post "USUALLY" in my generalization statement because there is 20% of the people who don't qualify. Guess you might be the 1 out of this group of 5 or 6! There's always someone who has a legit beef. My anecdotal evidence is from my experience over the last 3 years on the BOD, and 10+ years with the TSBA and CMRA.
You are acting like this decision to promote the additional riders is a violation of the rulebook. All the rulebook says is that the BOD will determine the number of riders to promote. Riders with an index above the annouced number will be automatically promoted. We revised the announced number in response to the member meeting, as well as take a look at a few other people who we felt fell through the rider index crack.
We also don't have a good system for promoting people out of the endurance-only crowd. How should we handle them?
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Originally posted by Keith Hertell #11:
Hmm, I think all anyone has to do is submit the friggin request to stay novice to the board.
Then wait and see what happens. Easy! IMHO MOFOS!!!
Ya, EASY if you do not care about a big fat zero for the 1st two rounds of '07 MOFO! :p
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Originally posted by Keith Hertell #11:
Hmm, I think all anyone has to do is submit the friggin request to stay novice to the board.
Then wait and see what happens. Easy! IMHO MOFOS!!!
Ya, EASY if you do not care about a big fat zero for the 1st two rounds of '07 MOFO! :p
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Jess, I think we (BOD) should insult them until they leave the club. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :p
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Jess, I think we (BOD) should insult them until they leave the club. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :p
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Originally posted by Jess Johnson:
We also don't have a good system for promoting people out of the endurance-only crowd. How should we handle them?
I know this is neither scientific, nor an actual system, but... most of the time we KNOW the endurance guys who should be an expert and need only to ask around to find out their laptimes.
Unless they use an assumed name and don the fake nose & mustache glasses... but that would just be low [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Originally posted by Jess Johnson:
We also don't have a good system for promoting people out of the endurance-only crowd. How should we handle them?
I know this is neither scientific, nor an actual system, but... most of the time we KNOW the endurance guys who should be an expert and need only to ask around to find out their laptimes.
Unless they use an assumed name and don the fake nose & mustache glasses... but that would just be low [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Every body listen Im not mad to be expert.I mad that I was told many times I would not be an expert in 2007. Not maybe it was NO! Not we are gonna move more up it was NO! OK now that Im not going to be expert can I race this bike in this class? YES Can I race this bike in this class? Tim read the rule book it has all your anwers. OK thanks. I spent a ton of money on bikes to try to win a championship. If I new I was gonna be an expert I would have not spent as much money. It doesnt make since to me to spend a bus load of money to race at the back with my friends or for fun as the BOD put it. Keith I have allredy filled my protest. I have allready been told by Chris not to expect no sampathy from him because he has been running in the back for over a year. Chris the difference is you where moved up according to the rule book. Your rider index was over .6 If my index was over .6 you would not hear a word from me. To be told one thing and then do another that doesnt sit well. Not only financially but mentally. At this point Im tired of beating my head against a door that will never open. This makes me very sad. TIIIMMMMY
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Every body listen Im not mad to be expert.I mad that I was told many times I would not be an expert in 2007. Not maybe it was NO! Not we are gonna move more up it was NO! OK now that Im not going to be expert can I race this bike in this class? YES Can I race this bike in this class? Tim read the rule book it has all your anwers. OK thanks. I spent a ton of money on bikes to try to win a championship. If I new I was gonna be an expert I would have not spent as much money. It doesnt make since to me to spend a bus load of money to race at the back with my friends or for fun as the BOD put it. Keith I have allredy filled my protest. I have allready been told by Chris not to expect no sampathy from him because he has been running in the back for over a year. Chris the difference is you where moved up according to the rule book. Your rider index was over .6 If my index was over .6 you would not hear a word from me. To be told one thing and then do another that doesnt sit well. Not only financially but mentally. At this point Im tired of beating my head against a door that will never open. This makes me very sad. TIIIMMMMY