2016 New Expert List

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Originally Posted by David Adams11

So you're saying if you're an expert level rider you don't have an excuse for finishing outside the novice top ten after starting in the expert wave?

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Oh. He went there.

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Originally Posted by Cody Stewart

I have one from TWS last year of pretty much doing the exact same thing, but it's not on YT.


Sure you can, 787 did it and he's still novice. Blow up the field? You realize that I've never podiumed when I started from the back - right?


Actually, I'm so comfortable riding around with other riders I'll even lay on the ground on a hot track with them.


Because I decided this year, instead of putting myself into situations I didn't feel comfortable with, I decided to do more track days at tracks I don't know to get myself at a level where I'd feel comfortable riding around in the expert group and try to go to a track or two that's far away (like Barber). Unfortunately, I don't have the disposable income to do both...which is exactly why I only do one or two rounds a year.


You're right. I'm bitter. I really wanted to run circles around all these little ***** ***, slow *** novices this year running 39s at houston at the first round and lock up the championship.

Actually - I'm not stupid. If that was the case, I wouldn't come in here letting people know about my personal reasons for not wanting to be moved up. I probably would've just said "Well - glad my name wasn't thrown out there" and kept moving. But that's not the case. I came in here because all too often people don't understand things that they don't personally experience.

If I was to be bitter about something, it would be of our education system who failed to teach you the difference between your and you're.

Please let me know if you have any other wrong assumptions of me that I can clear up for you.
-Cody

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Ok cody, you sure got me there, I'm out working and using a cell phone to respond to your non-sense. I'll stick to the topic at hand rather than make personal attacks like a child.

If all that bs you have mentioned is what helps you sleep better at night, so be it. Way to go, you really showed them.

I so want to make a tampon joke here.

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Originally Posted by Yorke Oldfather

Ok cody, you sure got me there, I'm out working and using a cell phone to respond to your non-sense. I'll stick to the topic at hand rather than make personal attacks like a child.

If all that bs you have mentioned is what helps you sleep better at night, so be it. Way to go, you really showed them.

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You called me bitter and a liar and I'm the one making personal attacks because I made a joke to try and lighten up the mood?

I'm actually very surprised some of this is coming from you. Legitimately.

Anyway, I've explained my reasoning and I'm done. If you want to be a tool and call me a liar and put words in my mouth, that's fine (that is actually me calling you a name). Have a good day (that's sarcasm).
-Cody

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Originally Posted by David Adams11

Should it really make a difference? Whether you asked for promotion or it was done automatically shouldn't matter, in the end you have expert status and should have the skill set required for it.

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Maybe, maybe not, I don't make those decisions. So there were some riders that were promoted ( I assume in A Superstock/bike ) that were beat by 10 or more novices?

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Originally Posted by Brandon Orr

Maybe, maybe not, I don't make those decisions. So there were some riders that were promoted ( I assume in A Superstock/bike ) that were beat by 10 or more novices?

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Yup, one experts lap time wouldn't have even put them on the podium for ULW GP novice. So my question is, how slow is too slow to be an expert? I know lap times aren't everything but surely there is a point when too slow is a problem.

Your argument is flawed, it's like saying I have not been to this track on a track day. So I will bump down to level 2 where the riding is safer. We both know it's not safer.

I don't think you are a liar, I think you believe your explanation. And I think you have looked at it all wrong, and I don't think I am the only one.

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Originally Posted by Cody Stewart

...and put words in my mouth, that's fine

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Put what in your mouth?!

Oh :ahem:, sorry. Got a little excited there. Carry on.

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Originally Posted by David Proler

I so want to make a tampon joke here.

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You should have inserted it then.

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Originally Posted by David Adams11

Yup, one experts lap time wouldn't have even put them on the podium for ULW GP novice. So my question is, how slow is too slow to be an expert? I know lap times aren't everything but surely there is a point when too slow is a problem.

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I agree, I think predictability and holding your line have a lot to do with it besides lap times. I am making the argument that when the club promotes you, it usually means you have proven where you belong. My point is if you were promoted by the CMRA, then there is a good chance you already run fast enough to not be DFL in your expert races, maybe even a lot faster (like top 10 expert). This all riding on if you were the only one promoted or not.