Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!

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Originally posted by christophercorder325:
Things I have learned from this thread:

1. BOTH membership and club management have horrible reading comprehension skills.
2. People have zero compassion for the plight and challenges of others.
3. The management of this club has grown so tired of the people who support it that they have virtually zero patience for anything.
4. Almost nobody is sharp enough to realize that this mess was created not by the act of bumping additional riders but rather by the way it was done.

I manage people's perception for a living. Perception is reality to the perceiver. Until somebody learns to manage the perception of the members (CUSTOMERS) you will continue to see threads like this one. And for what it is worth, if I saw this thread before I joined, I would be figuring out my WERA schedule right now.

I agree with bumping more experts and said so at the board meeting. It just should have been a little more subjective, especially with some of the marginal riders who were getting bumped.

Chris,
You might be right, who's to say. But here is my perception. We are living in a Wal-Mart society. People have come to believe if they gripe enough they will get their way. I am sympathetic to the concerns these guys have and I will bet our BoD is as well; But any business has the right to change the rules to ensure to the prosperity of the business. I agree more thought should have been put into where the bar was set for advancement before the first announcement, but what is done is done. If I see anything in this thread it is a lack of respect for authority, not apathy by the management.

Quote:

Originally posted by christophercorder325:
Things I have learned from this thread:

1. BOTH membership and club management have horrible reading comprehension skills.
2. People have zero compassion for the plight and challenges of others.
3. The management of this club has grown so tired of the people who support it that they have virtually zero patience for anything.
4. Almost nobody is sharp enough to realize that this mess was created not by the act of bumping additional riders but rather by the way it was done.

I manage people's perception for a living. Perception is reality to the perceiver. Until somebody learns to manage the perception of the members (CUSTOMERS) you will continue to see threads like this one. And for what it is worth, if I saw this thread before I joined, I would be figuring out my WERA schedule right now.

I agree with bumping more experts and said so at the board meeting. It just should have been a little more subjective, especially with some of the marginal riders who were getting bumped.

Chris,
You might be right, who's to say. But here is my perception. We are living in a Wal-Mart society. People have come to believe if they gripe enough they will get their way. I am sympathetic to the concerns these guys have and I will bet our BoD is as well; But any business has the right to change the rules to ensure to the prosperity of the business. I agree more thought should have been put into where the bar was set for advancement before the first announcement, but what is done is done. If I see anything in this thread it is a lack of respect for authority, not apathy by the management.

There seems to be a sense of entitlement present in some. The thought is that if I join CMRA, I should be put on a path that leads to top 3 finishes consistently and has a good chance to result in a novice class championship. That's not what I perceive CMRA or any racing to be about and I don't like the thought of it. There are no participant ribbons to make everyone feel like a "Winner". We keep score. Someone wins and some other dont't - some don't win now by might later and some never will win or even do well at any level in any endeavour.
Look at the AMA grids, the MotoGP grids, the 125 Juniors MX - most of the racers know there is a handful of go-fast guys who have a chance and the others are trying for personal bests and improvements. I raced MX when I was younger and had one win. I eventually got to the point where I thought I would be top four or five, depending, and might get a crappy, cheap trophy (I still have all of them). That was good for me but no one owed me any of it.
In CMRA I amazed myself by reaching the head of the pack. Part of it was using a check book to buy the power that got me there but there was some rider improvement. No one owed me this and I could have continued into the future without getting to mid pack and still accomplished my goal - having fun riding a motorbike faster than is really safe and trying always to go faster.
As a 58 year old "Expert" on a beautiful, new 600 I have high expectations for fun and no expectations of being "competitive". There will be someone in the back who I will play with and it will be GOOD!

I identify with and sympathize with Tim because I can see myself studying the results to find the class where I could have the best chance to succeed and then charging forward with checks flying only to find that those same bikes put you in an Expert class where you have no chance. BUT, you have no chance maybe in 2007. Tim and a lot of you do have a chance in the future to be successful in Experts. Get a good bike, keep it good, spend money on tires and practice like Troy Green said and who knows where you will go. Be very grateful you have the racer mentality to get out there and do things that would paralyze others with fear. Be very glad you have the age, health, strength to help you improve. Things can change in the twinkling of an eye so grab what you can.

As I said, I'm 58 and my attitude is that they'll have to pry the throttle out of my cold, dead fingers before I'll quit and before I'll quit trying to catch the guy in front of my. I don't care what class it is.

The Board is listening more attentively than you can imagine and the message has been received. Now,let's just race guys. Screw all this and just go have fun. Keep your day job and let's look forward to chopping up someone on the track.

One last thing before I stop this uncharacteristic post. Roger Albert - I don't ever again want to hear you down yourself. Self-deprecation is a lot of my style too but there's a time and place to stop. You passed it many posts ago. You gotta start thinking "fast". You gotta get the Nick Danger, dangerous in the world of men attitude (thanks to Steve McQueen for those terms)

I picked up my bike from Mike Patterson this week. It's incredibly beautiful and has me wired to the max. It's going to be a great year!

There seems to be a sense of entitlement present in some. The thought is that if I join CMRA, I should be put on a path that leads to top 3 finishes consistently and has a good chance to result in a novice class championship. That's not what I perceive CMRA or any racing to be about and I don't like the thought of it. There are no participant ribbons to make everyone feel like a "Winner". We keep score. Someone wins and some other dont't - some don't win now by might later and some never will win or even do well at any level in any endeavour.
Look at the AMA grids, the MotoGP grids, the 125 Juniors MX - most of the racers know there is a handful of go-fast guys who have a chance and the others are trying for personal bests and improvements. I raced MX when I was younger and had one win. I eventually got to the point where I thought I would be top four or five, depending, and might get a crappy, cheap trophy (I still have all of them). That was good for me but no one owed me any of it.
In CMRA I amazed myself by reaching the head of the pack. Part of it was using a check book to buy the power that got me there but there was some rider improvement. No one owed me this and I could have continued into the future without getting to mid pack and still accomplished my goal - having fun riding a motorbike faster than is really safe and trying always to go faster.
As a 58 year old "Expert" on a beautiful, new 600 I have high expectations for fun and no expectations of being "competitive". There will be someone in the back who I will play with and it will be GOOD!

I identify with and sympathize with Tim because I can see myself studying the results to find the class where I could have the best chance to succeed and then charging forward with checks flying only to find that those same bikes put you in an Expert class where you have no chance. BUT, you have no chance maybe in 2007. Tim and a lot of you do have a chance in the future to be successful in Experts. Get a good bike, keep it good, spend money on tires and practice like Troy Green said and who knows where you will go. Be very grateful you have the racer mentality to get out there and do things that would paralyze others with fear. Be very glad you have the age, health, strength to help you improve. Things can change in the twinkling of an eye so grab what you can.

As I said, I'm 58 and my attitude is that they'll have to pry the throttle out of my cold, dead fingers before I'll quit and before I'll quit trying to catch the guy in front of my. I don't care what class it is.

The Board is listening more attentively than you can imagine and the message has been received. Now,let's just race guys. Screw all this and just go have fun. Keep your day job and let's look forward to chopping up someone on the track.

One last thing before I stop this uncharacteristic post. Roger Albert - I don't ever again want to hear you down yourself. Self-deprecation is a lot of my style too but there's a time and place to stop. You passed it many posts ago. You gotta start thinking "fast". You gotta get the Nick Danger, dangerous in the world of men attitude (thanks to Steve McQueen for those terms)

I picked up my bike from Mike Patterson this week. It's incredibly beautiful and has me wired to the max. It's going to be a great year!

All the riders should have been moved at once. Im sure the BOD will make the right choice. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] I dont feel Im ready for expert. I would rather see a Intermediate class. They could race with the experts.TIIIMMMMY

All the riders should have been moved at once. Im sure the BOD will make the right choice. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] I dont feel Im ready for expert. I would rather see a Intermediate class. They could race with the experts.TIIIMMMMY

Tim this year they will have a
1st
2nd & 3rd place Rookie Expert award in each Expert class. It you are Rookie Ex and finish any where in the Expert class and you are the 1st 2nd or 3rd place Rookie you will get an award so there is an intermediate class if thats what you want to call it.

Tim this year they will have a
1st
2nd & 3rd place Rookie Expert award in each Expert class. It you are Rookie Ex and finish any where in the Expert class and you are the 1st 2nd or 3rd place Rookie you will get an award so there is an intermediate class if thats what you want to call it.

I agree with Frank 100%. I raced for years and not only NEVER won but also could seldom even see the lead group. But I had the time of my life and always kept the corner workers amused with the 'flying frog' antics. It was not that I didn't want to win-I spent way to much to build really good stuff that I didn't have the talent to operate-I just was talent challenged. If all we can do is complain about not being the big dog, then we are missing the point-this supposed to be fun!!! If you are not having fun then you should find some other outlet where you can. I'm still having a GREAT time with this club and can't think of anything else that would give me this much life enhancing pleasure.

Pax, Kevin

I agree with Frank 100%. I raced for years and not only NEVER won but also could seldom even see the lead group. But I had the time of my life and always kept the corner workers amused with the 'flying frog' antics. It was not that I didn't want to win-I spent way to much to build really good stuff that I didn't have the talent to operate-I just was talent challenged. If all we can do is complain about not being the big dog, then we are missing the point-this supposed to be fun!!! If you are not having fun then you should find some other outlet where you can. I'm still having a GREAT time with this club and can't think of anything else that would give me this much life enhancing pleasure.

Pax, Kevin