answer to novices on 1000's

Myself and a freind of mine who just took his riders school and has an R1 will both be screwed, what a way to introduce him to the wonderful world of CMRA. He is thrilled, he paid to race and now he cannot, I just finished all of my requirements to get my license and now have to be an expert or spend anothe $5-6k on a new bike and try to sell mine. I did finish 5th overall in my class in the GT races, but only cause I showed up and ran most of them.

Someone wanna trade me my R1 for an R6? Guess I dont have a choice in my own future, I'm 30 years old and someone is going to dictate what I am able to ride, lovely.

BD

Move up Nellis, move up. Yeah that's the ticket move up Nellis. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] If you don't move up I look forward to chasing you around next year, but with a twist. I'll try to stay a bit closer. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

There may be something to the decision, otherwise it might not have been unanimous. We don't know what kind of deal the CMRA and WERA have aworked out (if they did). I agree though that it is kind of a raw deal for the guys with big bikes.

twg

Amatuer riders can't enter expert races. If they implement the "no amatuers on anything larger than a 750" rule, you will have to ride something other than your 1000. You only move up to expert after proving yourself in the amatuer classes for a season or three and finishing consistently in the top % of your class.

Jess

I don't agree with limiting novices to 750cc or less. Most first year people are riding bikes that were their street bikes to start with. They don't just wake up one morning and say "I'm going to go race, lets go buy a race bike". I'm currently racing an RC51, first year racing, and the reason I'm using that bike is because that is what I had. I couldn't afford to go out and buy another bike to go race. I know some people will say it is false economy thinking that I saved money by racing a 01 RC51, but most of my mods were already done. I think the same is true with most of the other individuals racing big bore bikes. By limiting size there will be people who will not come and race, because there is no class for them to race with what they currently own. So is it better to introduce them to the sport with the 1000cc inline four or tell them to go away until you can get a smaller bike to race. I know if it were me I would not have raced. And anyways we all know size does not matter. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by Kevin Eggert:
...Most first year people are riding bikes that were their street bikes to start with. They don't just wake up one morning and say "I'm going to go race, lets go buy a race bike"...

Actually, virtually everyone I know did exactly that. Can't think of anybody I know personally who used their street bike as their first race bike.

Does a classic bike fall under this limit? I've got a 94 CBR 900 that I was planning on taking out next year.

sorry rich, my first race bike is my one off the street. cant afford to buy one just for racing. on the subject here is my two cents. i have no need for a 1000, cept an rc-51, and am quite happy with a 750 or 600. ok, the only track that wouldnt intimidate me is tws on a big bike like that. i have nothing to say to someone who wants to race one cept good luck. its a bummer they cant race if they already have one. but common sense says that is just too big to start with. but if i had any of that i wouldnt be racing i guess.

Yeah, I started on my street bike, a nearly new 1975 RD350.... :rolleyes:

Let me start by saying, Most of the people that are fine with novices on 1000cc bikes are new to the sport of roadracing. Yes it sounds great to say, "I roadrace a 160 horse power 1000 cc bike". But you will be wasting alot of time and money on a big bike.
#1 wheel spin... burnning up that rear tire.
#2 Highside factor... you will.
#3 only 2 or 3 classes you can ride in.

The list goes on. I would bet money, anyone can learn more with a YSR and a empty parking lot in a couple hours, than sprinting a 1000 all year. Hard to go out and slid both tires holding your bike up with your knee on a 1000. You can learn that in about 10 minutes with a YSR.

My best example... I had a friend racing a Honda CBR600 F2. He went out and and got a New 1996 GSXR750. I told him to keep racing the F2, Keep the GSXR on the street. But did he listen??? He called me Monday after racing at Hallett to tell me how wrong I was and how he was 2 seconds faster at Hallett. Well the next Monday he called me because that weekend they went to Oakhill to practice and he was 1.5 seconds slower. He couldn't figure that out. I told him he was a Dragracer. Oakhill doesn't have the straights for a big bike to run... You have to ride.

Get a 600, enter all the classes you can on Sunday, about 7 I think. Use your tires for 3 or 4 weekends. If you can go fast on 4 weekend tires. Think how fast you can go on new ones. Take offs are cheep and fun! I have won about $800 dollars with $200 dollars worth of take offs.

Darnell Dorsey CMRA Expert #74

Racing since 1988 (Am I really that old???)

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Originally posted by Mark Novak:
anyone notice speedvision doesn't play much motorcycle racing anymore???

Oh Mark, your full of it, I watched Two Wheeled Tuesday(Greg's Garage) on Wednesday last week. I got to see the whole 1/2hr. What more do you want from Speed? You act like they don't schedule racing anymore, but to tell you the truth, the bikes are really starting to look funny now, they seem alot wider now, and gone to 4 tires, I guess for stability purposes when racing those big ovals........