Tech clarifications, oil filters and bellypans

Alright, Keith...

So There is another way to do the allen head bolts.

If it's steel, you can weld a small nut to it and wire the nut.

Yeah Keith, I know, Taco Land!

Alright, Keith...

So There is another way to do the allen head bolts.

If it's steel, you can weld a small nut to it and wire the nut.

Yeah Keith, I know, Taco Land!

I think it is great there are these guides posted on the message board, but fact is not everyone reads the MB. No one should recieve a "Butt chewing" at tech unless the rider is way out of line in attitude. Keep in mind attitude of the tech inspector can humanly reflect to the riders attitude in a negative way causing unnecissiary "*** chewing/unproductive arguments". I am very sad to hear that several yellow shirts got chewed out. They should be corrected on their mistakes in a friendly manner and not "scared off".

I think it is great there are these guides posted on the message board, but fact is not everyone reads the MB. No one should recieve a "Butt chewing" at tech unless the rider is way out of line in attitude. Keep in mind attitude of the tech inspector can humanly reflect to the riders attitude in a negative way causing unnecissiary "*** chewing/unproductive arguments". I am very sad to hear that several yellow shirts got chewed out. They should be corrected on their mistakes in a friendly manner and not "scared off".

SOOO,

Does the lower need to come off or not??
Please don't reply read the rule book,
I've seen some bikes go with, some without
It;s a pain too truck back and forth to tech
helmet, lowers, bike back and forth to and frow

SOOO,

Does the lower need to come off or not??
Please don't reply read the rule book,
I've seen some bikes go with, some without
It;s a pain too truck back and forth to tech
helmet, lowers, bike back and forth to and frow

Delapro is the geeky one with lime on his breath and Tequila on his mind.

Thanks Derek. I stared at a clock. I still couldn't figure out clock wise or clock stupid but I did decide it was time to go hit some golf balls.

Delapro is the geeky one with lime on his breath and Tequila on his mind.

Thanks Derek. I stared at a clock. I still couldn't figure out clock wise or clock stupid but I did decide it was time to go hit some golf balls.

Thanks Newman. I just got that nauseous feeling thinking about all the tequila I drank at Laguna!

I'm not sure though what my drinking too much cheap tequila has to do with safety wiring? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

Thanks Newman. I just got that nauseous feeling thinking about all the tequila I drank at Laguna!

I'm not sure though what my drinking too much cheap tequila has to do with safety wiring? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

Leo, Yes, belly pans must be off. Instead of declaring that certain models have them removed it is more democratic to just say everybody. By the way, no one got 'chewed out' at the hill unless they uttered any of my favorite sayings- "it passed last time" or "thats not in the rule book"

Pax,Kevin the still happy tech guy

Leo, Yes, belly pans must be off. Instead of declaring that certain models have them removed it is more democratic to just say everybody. By the way, no one got 'chewed out' at the hill unless they uttered any of my favorite sayings- "it passed last time" or "thats not in the rule book"

Pax,Kevin the still happy tech guy

(I had this in its own thread originally, but it got no love there so I deleted it and am trying this thread. If I'm putting this question in the wrong place, can someone please point me in the right direction?)

Hi. I have an older bike (Yamaha FZR400) that I am prepping and I am hoping to make tech as painless as possible for me and the inspector(s).

The bike has fork drain plugs, and they are going to be awkward to safety wire--they are small Phillips head plugs seated in a recession cast into the fork tube. Another old-bike guy I ran into at a track day told me the tech inspector has allowed him to use aluminum-backed tape to secure his fork drain plugs, and showed me that he had done so on his bike.

Is the metallic tape going to be okay for my fork drain plugs? I don't want to put in hours of work trying to figure out how to wire these things if I don't have to, but I REALLY don't want to be scrambling around on race day trying figure it out at the track if the tape turns out to be unacceptable.

Thanks,

Andrew Sukach
Prov-Nov #529

(I had this in its own thread originally, but it got no love there so I deleted it and am trying this thread. If I'm putting this question in the wrong place, can someone please point me in the right direction?)

Hi. I have an older bike (Yamaha FZR400) that I am prepping and I am hoping to make tech as painless as possible for me and the inspector(s).

The bike has fork drain plugs, and they are going to be awkward to safety wire--they are small Phillips head plugs seated in a recession cast into the fork tube. Another old-bike guy I ran into at a track day told me the tech inspector has allowed him to use aluminum-backed tape to secure his fork drain plugs, and showed me that he had done so on his bike.

Is the metallic tape going to be okay for my fork drain plugs? I don't want to put in hours of work trying to figure out how to wire these things if I don't have to, but I REALLY don't want to be scrambling around on race day trying figure it out at the track if the tape turns out to be unacceptable.

Thanks,

Andrew Sukach
Prov-Nov #529

You don't have to safeT wire them. Silicone or the alum. tape will work.

You don't have to safeT wire them. Silicone or the alum. tape will work.

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I'm not sure though what my drinking too much cheap tequila has to do with safety wiring? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

I am you and you are me... I am the Walrus. Koo koo ka choo.

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Originally posted by Derek Delpero:
I'm not sure though what my drinking too much cheap tequila has to do with safety wiring? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

I am you and you are me... I am the Walrus. Koo koo ka choo.

Will this pass for my oil filler cap?

http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/n...y/IMG_1093.jpg

Will this pass for my oil filler cap?

http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/n...y/IMG_1093.jpg

Will this pass for my coolant drain?

http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/n...y/IMG_1091.jpg

Will this pass for my coolant drain?

http://i323.photobucket.com/albums/n...y/IMG_1091.jpg

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Yep, I can live with both of those examples. I recommend .032" wire for both of these locations, especially the oil fill. It looks like you have, but can't confirm that from the pix.

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Yep, I can live with both of those examples. I recommend .032" wire for both of these locations, especially the oil fill. It looks like you have, but can't confirm that from the pix.

Originally Posted By: Linz

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Yep, I can live with both of those examples. I recommend .032" wire for both of these locations, especially the oil fill. It looks like you have, but can't confirm that from the pix.

I checked my safety wire and it's only .028" so I'll redo with the .032"... Any other places that the .032" is preferred/recommended?

Originally Posted By: Linz

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Yep, I can live with both of those examples. I recommend .032" wire for both of these locations, especially the oil fill. It looks like you have, but can't confirm that from the pix.

I checked my safety wire and it's only .028" so I'll redo with the .032"... Any other places that the .032" is preferred/recommended?

i dont know if its a big deal or not,but you're releasing preasure on that clamp buddy.i would prolly turn it around or go around the neck.

i dont know if its a big deal or not,but you're releasing preasure on that clamp buddy.i would prolly turn it around or go around the neck.

Originally Posted By: Chaun Goins

Originally Posted By: Linz

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Yep, I can live with both of those examples. I recommend .032" wire for both of these locations, especially the oil fill. It looks like you have, but can't confirm that from the pix.

I checked my safety wire and it's only .028" so I'll redo with the .032"... Any other places that the .032" is preferred/recommended?

I wouldn't sweat it unless you have some .032 available. Lots of people use wire as small as .020 and that's fine, although I don't recommend that for oil fills, oil drains and oil filters.

Originally Posted By: joe rodriguez

i dont know if its a big deal or not,but you're releasing preasure on that clamp buddy.i would prolly turn it around or go around the neck.

These types of safety-pin style retaining pins seldom present themselves as issues, but ideally Joe is correct. The best solution is to simply use wire. You didn't buy yourself any time or convenience if one of these retaining devices fails and allows your oil fill to come loose and cause havoc.

Originally Posted By: Chaun Goins

Originally Posted By: Linz

^^^

Yep, I can live with both of those examples. I recommend .032" wire for both of these locations, especially the oil fill. It looks like you have, but can't confirm that from the pix.

I checked my safety wire and it's only .028" so I'll redo with the .032"... Any other places that the .032" is preferred/recommended?

I wouldn't sweat it unless you have some .032 available. Lots of people use wire as small as .020 and that's fine, although I don't recommend that for oil fills, oil drains and oil filters.

Originally Posted By: joe rodriguez

i dont know if its a big deal or not,but you're releasing preasure on that clamp buddy.i would prolly turn it around or go around the neck.

These types of safety-pin style retaining pins seldom present themselves as issues, but ideally Joe is correct. The best solution is to simply use wire. You didn't buy yourself any time or convenience if one of these retaining devices fails and allows your oil fill to come loose and cause havoc.

I'll make some adjustments... thanks for the feedback.

I'll make some adjustments... thanks for the feedback.

Originally Posted By: joe rodriguez

i dont know if its a big deal or not,but you're releasing preasure on that clamp buddy.i would prolly turn it around or go around the neck.

i meant the pic of the drain bolt wire pulling the clamp loose [img]<>/wink.gif[/img]

i know there is people coming on here to look for sample pics of how to wire some stuff for next season...
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The best solution is to simply use wire. You didn't buy yourself any time or convenience if one of these retaining devices fails and allows your oil fill to come loose and cause havoc.

Holy thread resurrection Batman!

Does the switch for rain light have to be exposed or can it be under seat?


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Does the switch for rain light have to be exposed or can it be under seat?


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It can be under the seat as long as it can be accessed quickly.

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It can be under the seat as long as it can be accessed quickly.

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Does a Grom require a belly pan for the mini challenge races?

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Originally Posted by Vincent Au

Does a Grom require a belly pan for the mini challenge races?

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Groms and Jr Motard machines are generally exempt from the bellypan requirement. That being said if you can fit a bellypan please do.