Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Two things:
1. I dont know if you submitted a review letter or not but my guess is you will. My suggestion to you is to come up with valid (RIDING) reasons to stay a novice. Regardless of how justified your reasons are to you, I can definately tell you that the reasons you have cited WILL NOT sway the board. Its easy to look at Corey and others and say that they got to remain novice and then they dominated but these riders gave valid RIDING RELATED reasons for staying a novice. I doubt the BOD cares how much money you spent or how long your were planning to race in the gray hair class. Oh, and dont cite your laptimes. You sometimes had faster laps than me and I have three years of racing experience on you. I wish you the best of luck and I look foward to racing against you regardless of the color of your plates.
2. This club is NOT member owned in any way, shape, or form. I approach my relationship with the club as a business/client relationship. I pay for a service and the club provides it, that is all. I dont volunteer to help the club just like I dont volunteer to help Wal Mart restock its shelves. My wife loves the CMRA and wants to give her free time to the club. I think that is awesome but that is not the relationship I plan on having with the CMRA. My point is that other than races, I dont expect ANYTHING from this club. Do I have a voice? Yes. And I give it when I feel it is in my best interest. But, I am a customer who is provided a service, nothing more, nothing less.
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Two things:
1. I dont know if you submitted a review letter or not but my guess is you will. My suggestion to you is to come up with valid (RIDING) reasons to stay a novice. Regardless of how justified your reasons are to you, I can definately tell you that the reasons you have cited WILL NOT sway the board. Its easy to look at Corey and others and say that they got to remain novice and then they dominated but these riders gave valid RIDING RELATED reasons for staying a novice. I doubt the BOD cares how much money you spent or how long your were planning to race in the gray hair class. Oh, and dont cite your laptimes. You sometimes had faster laps than me and I have three years of racing experience on you. I wish you the best of luck and I look foward to racing against you regardless of the color of your plates.
2. This club is NOT member owned in any way, shape, or form. I approach my relationship with the club as a business/client relationship. I pay for a service and the club provides it, that is all. I dont volunteer to help the club just like I dont volunteer to help Wal Mart restock its shelves. My wife loves the CMRA and wants to give her free time to the club. I think that is awesome but that is not the relationship I plan on having with the CMRA. My point is that other than races, I dont expect ANYTHING from this club. Do I have a voice? Yes. And I give it when I feel it is in my best interest. But, I am a customer who is provided a service, nothing more, nothing less.
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Linz how come every time some body disagrees with the BOD there called whinners? Linz I wasnt present when the BOD evaluated the new experts. Maybe you guys see something I dont. Im even willing to keep looking and I have but I still cant see how myself and other riders where moved to expert. The only why I can come close to seeing the reason is to fill up the grid. Lord knows I could be wrong. So at this point I think I better stop or I will be on the BLACKLIST for quit some time. I just wanna race and have a good time. I voted for the BOD and I truly hope in the future memebers who have a disagreement with the BOD will recieve the same respect they give the BOD. Remember the members voted for you and other BOD to be our voice not to talk down to us and call us WHINNERS. Thanks for your time Tim Chason
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Linz how come every time some body disagrees with the BOD there called whinners? Linz I wasnt present when the BOD evaluated the new experts. Maybe you guys see something I dont. Im even willing to keep looking and I have but I still cant see how myself and other riders where moved to expert. The only why I can come close to seeing the reason is to fill up the grid. Lord knows I could be wrong. So at this point I think I better stop or I will be on the BLACKLIST for quit some time. I just wanna race and have a good time. I voted for the BOD and I truly hope in the future memebers who have a disagreement with the BOD will recieve the same respect they give the BOD. Remember the members voted for you and other BOD to be our voice not to talk down to us and call us WHINNERS. Thanks for your time Tim Chason
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Linz The more I think about your post the more uneasy I get. If you go back to when all this started you would see how the BOD is in conflict with its own post. Straight out of the rule book. The BOD will set the riders index at the end of the season. :Originally posted by Nancey:,[Riders with a .600 and above are automatically moved up to Expert for 2007. Also, any Novice who won a 2006 Class Championship is automatically moved up to Expert] I couldnt find anywhere the rule book says after the Index has been posted and the new experts where anounced the index would change. If I would have been on the original list I would have felt different. WHY? because all year long we are told rules are rules. If the BOD dosent feel that changing the Index a month after it was posted is a big thing. Then what was the big deal with letting Kelsey race the last race as expert and not give up his novice championship [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] OH thats right rules are rules. At this point It no longer matters. Only negative will come from this and its going no where. Plus I dont like being talked down to and made an exzample of. I was told when I first joined the CMRA dont Question the BOD because you will be hung out to dry. As long as I gave my money and my time I was a great guy. Now I dont agree with something and all of a sudden Im the devil a bad member trying to start problems. Now I allredy know what your thinking we never said that. You didnt have to just read your post. From my side its says how dare you Question us, This is your first year you dont know what your talking about, So shut up and do what we say. No problem I take back my request I will race as a expert in 2007. One more thing Linz It was well know I was waiting to race F40! By all my racing buddies/friends/pit pals. According to the BOD thats what racing is all about right?
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Linz The more I think about your post the more uneasy I get. If you go back to when all this started you would see how the BOD is in conflict with its own post. Straight out of the rule book. The BOD will set the riders index at the end of the season. :Originally posted by Nancey:,[Riders with a .600 and above are automatically moved up to Expert for 2007. Also, any Novice who won a 2006 Class Championship is automatically moved up to Expert] I couldnt find anywhere the rule book says after the Index has been posted and the new experts where anounced the index would change. If I would have been on the original list I would have felt different. WHY? because all year long we are told rules are rules. If the BOD dosent feel that changing the Index a month after it was posted is a big thing. Then what was the big deal with letting Kelsey race the last race as expert and not give up his novice championship [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] OH thats right rules are rules. At this point It no longer matters. Only negative will come from this and its going no where. Plus I dont like being talked down to and made an exzample of. I was told when I first joined the CMRA dont Question the BOD because you will be hung out to dry. As long as I gave my money and my time I was a great guy. Now I dont agree with something and all of a sudden Im the devil a bad member trying to start problems. Now I allredy know what your thinking we never said that. You didnt have to just read your post. From my side its says how dare you Question us, This is your first year you dont know what your talking about, So shut up and do what we say. No problem I take back my request I will race as a expert in 2007. One more thing Linz It was well know I was waiting to race F40! By all my racing buddies/friends/pit pals. According to the BOD thats what racing is all about right?
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
I will not line item your response, Tim. I stand by my words. Please read them again and remember that change occurs because there is a gap between what is and what should be.
And I am sorry that someone put the idea in your head when you first joined the CMRA that questioning the BoD would be poison. I do not think that to be a wholly fair statement for someone to make. I encourage you or anyone else to question the BoD, the rulebook, your local government and your national government because it keeps these groups on thier respective toes.
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
I will not line item your response, Tim. I stand by my words. Please read them again and remember that change occurs because there is a gap between what is and what should be.
And I am sorry that someone put the idea in your head when you first joined the CMRA that questioning the BoD would be poison. I do not think that to be a wholly fair statement for someone to make. I encourage you or anyone else to question the BoD, the rulebook, your local government and your national government because it keeps these groups on thier respective toes.
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Linz for me this matter is closed. The difference from myself and other memebers, I dont try to play both sides of the fence. The down side is sometimes this Isolates me. In my eyes the BOD has made a bad decition. If the BOD cant step back and try to look at it from my view and other members. THAT IS THE HOLE PROBLEM!!!! If the BOD cant look at the club from every possible view. From JR motard to a possible womens only race. There will allways be conflict in the club and rummors of a close minded BOD. Linz my words have not been directed at you as my friend rather the position you hold.Thank you and other BOD memebers for there time. Tim Chason
Re: Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!
Linz for me this matter is closed. The difference from myself and other memebers, I dont try to play both sides of the fence. The down side is sometimes this Isolates me. In my eyes the BOD has made a bad decition. If the BOD cant step back and try to look at it from my view and other members. THAT IS THE HOLE PROBLEM!!!! If the BOD cant look at the club from every possible view. From JR motard to a possible womens only race. There will allways be conflict in the club and rummors of a close minded BOD. Linz my words have not been directed at you as my friend rather the position you hold.Thank you and other BOD memebers for there time. Tim Chason