Because it will be fun Tim.
Just think more people to race with in every class.
Sounds like fun to Me
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Because it will be fun Tim.
Just think more people to race with in every class.
Sounds like fun to Me
Because it will be fun Tim.
Just think more people to race with in every class.
Sounds like fun to Me
Maybe they figured that if you want to talk like the big boys, walk like the big boys, they would put you with the big boys. What's money, what's mouth, and what meets.Quote:Originally posted by Tim Chason:
One thing to consider in the future. Dont post names that arent getting moved and then come back and say opps sorry. By that time decisions have been made on what classes we will race and money has been spent [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] I asked several times if I was getting moved to Expert the reply was always NO!!!!! Now thousands of dollars have been spent on building bikes that I wont race [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] NOT HAPPY,NOT HAPPY [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] The post clearly states any rider with a .6 or higer or a winner of a championship will be moved up.I cant find any where the post states that other riders will be moved up. From reading the minutes the BOD agreed no more riders would be moved up.Some body suggest that more riders get moved up and we throw the rule book out. Has anybody asked the people on the list if they wanted to move up? The BOD is allways saying rules are rules! So what happened here? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] Is the BOD going to refund the money I have spent to build bikes on there rulling or change of rulling. I cant find anywhere that says the expert list will change. TIIIMMMMY
Now go give em hell.
Congrats to all, much deserved recognition.
Maybe they figured that if you want to talk like the big boys, walk like the big boys, they would put you with the big boys. What's money, what's mouth, and what meets.Quote:Originally posted by Tim Chason:
One thing to consider in the future. Dont post names that arent getting moved and then come back and say opps sorry. By that time decisions have been made on what classes we will race and money has been spent [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] I asked several times if I was getting moved to Expert the reply was always NO!!!!! Now thousands of dollars have been spent on building bikes that I wont race [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] NOT HAPPY,NOT HAPPY [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] The post clearly states any rider with a .6 or higer or a winner of a championship will be moved up.I cant find any where the post states that other riders will be moved up. From reading the minutes the BOD agreed no more riders would be moved up.Some body suggest that more riders get moved up and we throw the rule book out. Has anybody asked the people on the list if they wanted to move up? The BOD is allways saying rules are rules! So what happened here? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] Is the BOD going to refund the money I have spent to build bikes on there rulling or change of rulling. I cant find anywhere that says the expert list will change. TIIIMMMMY
Now go give em hell.
Congrats to all, much deserved recognition.
If the people in this "extra experts" list dont want to be experts, they should not have to wait 2 race weekends to appeal. If riders are alot slower than experts, but racing against them... i dont see how that could be more fun or even safe.
This is last reason I thought people would be bumped to expert... for fun and not for skill? Dont we split up the experts/novices for safety reasons?
If the people in this "extra experts" list dont want to be experts, they should not have to wait 2 race weekends to appeal. If riders are alot slower than experts, but racing against them... i dont see how that could be more fun or even safe.
This is last reason I thought people would be bumped to expert... for fun and not for skill? Dont we split up the experts/novices for safety reasons?
Thanks David, but I wouldn't say that I personally _deserve_ expert. That would kind of cheapen the accomplishment for all, don't you think [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Boy, I hate to publicly, and in _written_ fashion no less, agree with Tim on anything [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] but the only way I could possibly have gotten bumped would be to my mad (sad?) skillz on an XR100.
Though I sat in on the open meeting, and support and understand the decision, I can't believe a couple of us that have ended up on the new list.
Looked at on the basis of big bikes (and the minis shouldn't really matter, given the lesser required skills, and the fact that they're run with both expert and novice combined anyway), I'm personally not terribly qualified. One need only look, even casually, at my laptimes. Heck, I'm slower on an SV that Tim on a Motard, as he's publicly stated in the past [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] (sad but true) If I were at the back of the pack during a race, it would be one thing, but generally, after a lap or two, I'm not even in sight of the pack (even among other lightweight novices) and invariably am getting lapped before races end, normally by a number of other riders.
I don't want to be one of those sandbagger guys.
I just want come up to speed (literally and figuratively) as my skills develop, and be racing amongst my laptime peers. Again, I generally don't even run well enough to be out of the bottom couple people amongst other novices. Often times out circulating all by myself, too far behind to see, or learn from even the other slow, but still-quicker-than me novices. That state of affairs will be much worse with me in "amongst" (read: well well behind) the experts. Lastly, I don't feel it's safe for either me, or other experts who should rightly expect a certain level of knowledge, consistency and predictability from other white plates. I can't wait to be an expert one day. It's a strong goal. But I want to earn and deserve it, and be ready and safe in it.
I hope the powers that be will review this decision _before_ the next season. I hope that they will look away from mini results (especially just F7) and look at both laptimes and finishes. And on the latter, if you see a 3rd, note carefully that there were only 4 or 5 people, and two of them ran off the track.
Again, I support and understand the whole idea.
But I think the criteria maybe have been either poorly selected, or have been made in too blanket of a fashion (mixing mini and big bike results --- in one of them I look pretty cool, in the other like an idiot. I fear the latter is more representative)
Lastly, remember, I'm the one that can type and spell (usually) and Timmy the one that can ride.
Promote him, not me [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Thanks David, but I wouldn't say that I personally _deserve_ expert. That would kind of cheapen the accomplishment for all, don't you think [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Boy, I hate to publicly, and in _written_ fashion no less, agree with Tim on anything [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] but the only way I could possibly have gotten bumped would be to my mad (sad?) skillz on an XR100.
Though I sat in on the open meeting, and support and understand the decision, I can't believe a couple of us that have ended up on the new list.
Looked at on the basis of big bikes (and the minis shouldn't really matter, given the lesser required skills, and the fact that they're run with both expert and novice combined anyway), I'm personally not terribly qualified. One need only look, even casually, at my laptimes. Heck, I'm slower on an SV that Tim on a Motard, as he's publicly stated in the past [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] (sad but true) If I were at the back of the pack during a race, it would be one thing, but generally, after a lap or two, I'm not even in sight of the pack (even among other lightweight novices) and invariably am getting lapped before races end, normally by a number of other riders.
I don't want to be one of those sandbagger guys.
I just want come up to speed (literally and figuratively) as my skills develop, and be racing amongst my laptime peers. Again, I generally don't even run well enough to be out of the bottom couple people amongst other novices. Often times out circulating all by myself, too far behind to see, or learn from even the other slow, but still-quicker-than me novices. That state of affairs will be much worse with me in "amongst" (read: well well behind) the experts. Lastly, I don't feel it's safe for either me, or other experts who should rightly expect a certain level of knowledge, consistency and predictability from other white plates. I can't wait to be an expert one day. It's a strong goal. But I want to earn and deserve it, and be ready and safe in it.
I hope the powers that be will review this decision _before_ the next season. I hope that they will look away from mini results (especially just F7) and look at both laptimes and finishes. And on the latter, if you see a 3rd, note carefully that there were only 4 or 5 people, and two of them ran off the track.
Again, I support and understand the whole idea.
But I think the criteria maybe have been either poorly selected, or have been made in too blanket of a fashion (mixing mini and big bike results --- in one of them I look pretty cool, in the other like an idiot. I fear the latter is more representative)
Lastly, remember, I'm the one that can type and spell (usually) and Timmy the one that can ride.
Promote him, not me [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
The five stages of grief are:
1-Denial-"this can't be happening to me", No crying. Not accepting or even acknowledging the loss (of Novice Status).
2-Anger-"why me?”, feelings of wanting to fight back or get even with the BoD, blaming them for you having some talent.
3-Bargaining-bargaining (spelled w h i n i n g) often takes place before the loss. Attempting to make deals with the BoD members, or attempting to make deals with God to stop or change the loss (of novice status). Begging, wishing, praying for it to come back (This one is spelled A p p e a l L e t t e r).
4-Depression-overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of status as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb.
5-Acceptance-there is a difference between resignation and acceptance. You have to accept the loss, not just try to bear it quietly. Realization that you’re Still gridding up with friends. Realization that your Novice days are over, that it is not the fault of the Club, they didn't promote you without reason. Finding the good that can come out of the pain of loss, finding comfort and healing. Hold on to the fond memories of your Novice racing days, But embrace your new beginnings.
The five stages of grief are:
1-Denial-"this can't be happening to me", No crying. Not accepting or even acknowledging the loss (of Novice Status).
2-Anger-"why me?”, feelings of wanting to fight back or get even with the BoD, blaming them for you having some talent.
3-Bargaining-bargaining (spelled w h i n i n g) often takes place before the loss. Attempting to make deals with the BoD members, or attempting to make deals with God to stop or change the loss (of novice status). Begging, wishing, praying for it to come back (This one is spelled A p p e a l L e t t e r).
4-Depression-overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of status as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb.
5-Acceptance-there is a difference between resignation and acceptance. You have to accept the loss, not just try to bear it quietly. Realization that you’re Still gridding up with friends. Realization that your Novice days are over, that it is not the fault of the Club, they didn't promote you without reason. Finding the good that can come out of the pain of loss, finding comfort and healing. Hold on to the fond memories of your Novice racing days, But embrace your new beginnings.