Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Originally posted by Barry & Claire McMahan:
We have been doing this for 10 years and tried it all. We are ready for new blood. You find it for us and we will be gone in a flash.
Claire
I would respectfully request that nobody supply the McMahan's with fresh blood. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Originally posted by Barry & Claire McMahan:
We have been doing this for 10 years and tried it all. We are ready for new blood. You find it for us and we will be gone in a flash.
Claire
I would respectfully request that nobody supply the McMahan's with fresh blood. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Working corners is difficult and thankless in CMRA and all other forms of motorsports. The CART Houston GP used mostly volunteer SCCA corner workers who had little more training than a second weekend yellow shirt. We have a few workers that serve every race who undoubtedly would have handled Daijiro Kato's accident much better than the "pros" in Japan. I am glad we have them and every other worker, regardless of their motivation.
As for coordinating safety -- Claire spent the first race weekend at TWS last year in the hospital in College Station. Barry worked his *** of by day and spent the night with Claire. I believe we were at Hallett when the McMahon's home was flooded -- they were with us in Oklahoma until we packed our trailers, then they went home and started to rebuild their home. They are there working for YOU from Friday until late Sunday (sometimes Monday), every race weekend. Whether you know them or not, these people love our sport and every one of you! Tell them "thank you" and/or offer to help!
MH
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Working corners is difficult and thankless in CMRA and all other forms of motorsports. The CART Houston GP used mostly volunteer SCCA corner workers who had little more training than a second weekend yellow shirt. We have a few workers that serve every race who undoubtedly would have handled Daijiro Kato's accident much better than the "pros" in Japan. I am glad we have them and every other worker, regardless of their motivation.
As for coordinating safety -- Claire spent the first race weekend at TWS last year in the hospital in College Station. Barry worked his *** of by day and spent the night with Claire. I believe we were at Hallett when the McMahon's home was flooded -- they were with us in Oklahoma until we packed our trailers, then they went home and started to rebuild their home. They are there working for YOU from Friday until late Sunday (sometimes Monday), every race weekend. Whether you know them or not, these people love our sport and every one of you! Tell them "thank you" and/or offer to help!
MH
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
And don't forget Claire's amazing cookies she made for every one of us working Sunday (and Saturday, I'm sure)! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Tim and I worked turn four on Sunday. Spent a bunch of cash on hotel, gas and supplies and didn't even get to ride. Two guys on the corner with me were professional EMT/firefighters, so you got a whole more bang for the buck.. wrong choice of words, we were there for free. Yes, we went there for the provnov requirement. But after the first highside in the morning practice when the rider pretty much knocked himself out, we all knew why we were there and just how important this was. We did the best we could, and I know this went for everyone working corners. When more than one bike goes down, even three people is not always enough - getting the rider out of the harms way and tending to him, getting the bike/debris from the track, transmitting to control, and flagging are all important, have to be done at once and can be difficult to prioritize. Don't know if we could have done any better even if we tried.. or even did it every race weekend.
Would I do it again if I didn't have to? Half a day definitely; after about 7-8 hours it gets pretty tough, so don't know about a whole day. It's not about the money either, but the riders waiving at the cool down lap made much of it worthwile.. that and knowing that maybe we could keep you guys safe, and someone else would do it for us when it's our turn to run.
Passing the soap box.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
And don't forget Claire's amazing cookies she made for every one of us working Sunday (and Saturday, I'm sure)! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Tim and I worked turn four on Sunday. Spent a bunch of cash on hotel, gas and supplies and didn't even get to ride. Two guys on the corner with me were professional EMT/firefighters, so you got a whole more bang for the buck.. wrong choice of words, we were there for free. Yes, we went there for the provnov requirement. But after the first highside in the morning practice when the rider pretty much knocked himself out, we all knew why we were there and just how important this was. We did the best we could, and I know this went for everyone working corners. When more than one bike goes down, even three people is not always enough - getting the rider out of the harms way and tending to him, getting the bike/debris from the track, transmitting to control, and flagging are all important, have to be done at once and can be difficult to prioritize. Don't know if we could have done any better even if we tried.. or even did it every race weekend.
Would I do it again if I didn't have to? Half a day definitely; after about 7-8 hours it gets pretty tough, so don't know about a whole day. It's not about the money either, but the riders waiving at the cool down lap made much of it worthwile.. that and knowing that maybe we could keep you guys safe, and someone else would do it for us when it's our turn to run.
Passing the soap box.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
From my perspective, the corner workers were working doubletime on Sunday.
Thank you turn 6 corner workers, whoever you were. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
I havent been to many races, but from what I could gather is there were alot of crashes. Why?
My opinion is that the track out there at OHR sux! And I also think thats part of the reason there were so many crashes....mine included. Same scenario at a different track and i would not have crashed. Lowside coming out of turn 6 going up the hill, back end came around without notice. But thats part of racing i guess.
Maybe there was/is a need for more corner workers at ohr specifically. When i was down, a rider going into turn 6 went off. kinda leaves nobody holding down the fort.
However, i'm not about to complain about the corner workers or those who are responsible for them. But i dont think Blake making a suggestion on how to better prepare cornerworkers was all that out of line.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
From my perspective, the corner workers were working doubletime on Sunday.
Thank you turn 6 corner workers, whoever you were. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
I havent been to many races, but from what I could gather is there were alot of crashes. Why?
My opinion is that the track out there at OHR sux! And I also think thats part of the reason there were so many crashes....mine included. Same scenario at a different track and i would not have crashed. Lowside coming out of turn 6 going up the hill, back end came around without notice. But thats part of racing i guess.
Maybe there was/is a need for more corner workers at ohr specifically. When i was down, a rider going into turn 6 went off. kinda leaves nobody holding down the fort.
However, i'm not about to complain about the corner workers or those who are responsible for them. But i dont think Blake making a suggestion on how to better prepare cornerworkers was all that out of line.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Originally posted by Rick Chapman:
However, i'm not about to complain about the corner workers or those who are responsible for them. But i dont think Blake making a suggestion on how to better prepare cornerworkers was all that out of line.
the reason people are taking exception is that blake did not make a suggestion. he just came on here *****in' and moanin' without all the facts as to what happened on the incident that he was reffering to.
not surprising really, he also thought the beull would become the dominant lghtwt twin bike too!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Originally posted by Rick Chapman:
However, i'm not about to complain about the corner workers or those who are responsible for them. But i dont think Blake making a suggestion on how to better prepare cornerworkers was all that out of line.
the reason people are taking exception is that blake did not make a suggestion. he just came on here *****in' and moanin' without all the facts as to what happened on the incident that he was reffering to.
not surprising really, he also thought the beull would become the dominant lghtwt twin bike too!!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]