Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!

Hey thanks for the bump! When I thought I was to be left behind I was pretty bummed at not getting to watch Suzette's pony tail dissapear around everone's favorite at Hallet or Heather part the crowd in the first turn like a cleaver thru a melon, or check out the inscription Cathy wears. And no Cathy, they don't. Now I also have a shot at keeping the competition going with Chris Accardo. But if all else fails, and I find myself at the back of the pack, I can always check out the fine stable of bikes Timmy will be fielding!
Deserving or no, thanks!

Hey thanks for the bump! When I thought I was to be left behind I was pretty bummed at not getting to watch Suzette's pony tail dissapear around everone's favorite at Hallet or Heather part the crowd in the first turn like a cleaver thru a melon, or check out the inscription Cathy wears. And no Cathy, they don't. Now I also have a shot at keeping the competition going with Chris Accardo. But if all else fails, and I find myself at the back of the pack, I can always check out the fine stable of bikes Timmy will be fielding!
Deserving or no, thanks!

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Troy 06/999 12,000.00, 06/749s 7000.00, 03/monster 900 2800.00/ Ohlins superbike fork 8500.00 Olins R/T fork x 2 5800.00 Three rear shocks 2000.00 BLA BLA BLA Thats 38100.00 OUCH I was gonna build some new minis also but now Im scared TIIIMMMMY

Holy cow, Timmuh! You ARE going all out... No offense but at our level money is better spent in seat time than on bling-bling [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Getting bumped up to Expert honors me, but to get bumped up Expert 2nd class is somewhat not the same.

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Troy 06/999 12,000.00, 06/749s 7000.00, 03/monster 900 2800.00/ Ohlins superbike fork 8500.00 Olins R/T fork x 2 5800.00 Three rear shocks 2000.00 BLA BLA BLA Thats 38100.00 OUCH I was gonna build some new minis also but now Im scared TIIIMMMMY

Holy cow, Timmuh! You ARE going all out... No offense but at our level money is better spent in seat time than on bling-bling [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Getting bumped up to Expert honors me, but to get bumped up Expert 2nd class is somewhat not the same.

Hey Timmmmy no offense, but spend yo money on BAAAD Duc Racing rather than on yo own bikes. YO money will be much better spent than on seat time or tires as others have belched! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Welcome to expert suka! Its a lose-lose for ya now. If you stay novice now, and win a bunch of novice races everyone will say u a sand bagger, and the BOD was right to move you to expert. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] Welcome to the CMRA!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Hey Timmmmy no offense, but spend yo money on BAAAD Duc Racing rather than on yo own bikes. YO money will be much better spent than on seat time or tires as others have belched! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Welcome to expert suka! Its a lose-lose for ya now. If you stay novice now, and win a bunch of novice races everyone will say u a sand bagger, and the BOD was right to move you to expert. WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img] Welcome to the CMRA!! WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

Hey Buddy, if they let you put a rearview mirror on your bike, you can still see me for the first lap or so too [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Hey Buddy, if they let you put a rearview mirror on your bike, you can still see me for the first lap or so too [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

WOW !!!!! I could be wrong or just plain ole stupid…But it seems to me that most of the people in the CMRA that race motorcycles are probably competitors and want to WIN races…Or atleast get on the podium…Pick up some trophy’s…Run up at the front of the pack…At the very least feel they have a shot at winning a race.

So you start out as a novice…Probably running mid pack if you are lucky…You practice, go to the races and you finishes start getting better…Are you winning races ??? Probably not…Are you on the podium ??? Nope…Getting some contingency money ??? No…Getting to run up front and being able to see the top 3 riders go across the finish line ??? Nope.

So you finish your novice year without running up front…You do not even come close to winning a race…Never have the top three riders in your sights…Maybe crack the top 10 in a few races.

So you finish the year below the .6 rider index and figure okay I might just have a chance after making improvements through the year to run up front…Maybe get a podium finish…Might even win some contingency money…Shucks you might even have a chance at…Should I dare ??? What the hell…WIN a race ???

But hold the phone…The BOD decides to change the rule and bump you up even though you finished the year according to the rule book in a way that would have left you a novice.

So here you are…Bumped up to expert…Thoughts of running up front dancing through your head ??? I don’t think so…Shot at winning a race ???…Right down the tubes with the .6 rider index.

I don’t think should would come as a big surprise that some of the riders that got bumped up to expert after thinking they would remain novices are upset.

It is just my opinion but it would seem to me the BOD might understand why some of the affected riders are upset…Rules are rules and some of the statements in this thread show a pretty calloused attitude towards the affected riders being bumped.

But hey that is just my opinion…Changing the rules and then telling the guys who are affected to shut up and quit voicing their displeasure, seems well…Why don’t you just fill in the adjectives.

Seems they should be able to voice their displeasure about anything happening in the club without having the BOD belittling them…Or make condescending statements to said riders.

Now where are those flame resistant drawers…I can feel the flames…But hey just my 2 cents.

WOW !!!!! I could be wrong or just plain ole stupid…But it seems to me that most of the people in the CMRA that race motorcycles are probably competitors and want to WIN races…Or atleast get on the podium…Pick up some trophy’s…Run up at the front of the pack…At the very least feel they have a shot at winning a race.

So you start out as a novice…Probably running mid pack if you are lucky…You practice, go to the races and you finishes start getting better…Are you winning races ??? Probably not…Are you on the podium ??? Nope…Getting some contingency money ??? No…Getting to run up front and being able to see the top 3 riders go across the finish line ??? Nope.

So you finish your novice year without running up front…You do not even come close to winning a race…Never have the top three riders in your sights…Maybe crack the top 10 in a few races.

So you finish the year below the .6 rider index and figure okay I might just have a chance after making improvements through the year to run up front…Maybe get a podium finish…Might even win some contingency money…Shucks you might even have a chance at…Should I dare ??? What the hell…WIN a race ???

But hold the phone…The BOD decides to change the rule and bump you up even though you finished the year according to the rule book in a way that would have left you a novice.

So here you are…Bumped up to expert…Thoughts of running up front dancing through your head ??? I don’t think so…Shot at winning a race ???…Right down the tubes with the .6 rider index.

I don’t think should would come as a big surprise that some of the riders that got bumped up to expert after thinking they would remain novices are upset.

It is just my opinion but it would seem to me the BOD might understand why some of the affected riders are upset…Rules are rules and some of the statements in this thread show a pretty calloused attitude towards the affected riders being bumped.

But hey that is just my opinion…Changing the rules and then telling the guys who are affected to shut up and quit voicing their displeasure, seems well…Why don’t you just fill in the adjectives.

Seems they should be able to voice their displeasure about anything happening in the club without having the BOD belittling them…Or make condescending statements to said riders.

Now where are those flame resistant drawers…I can feel the flames…But hey just my 2 cents.

ERRRRRRR... Must resist urge to.....

Arrrrrgggghhhh......

When I started I had dreams of becoming an expert... ARgggghhhh must not knee cap every one...

Pay your fees and race ARRRgggghhhh have so many things I want to ssss......


ARGGGGGGhhhhhh I LIKE KITTENS With Garlic and pepper...


ERrrrrrr


I don't have anything nice to say... so I'm going to stop...

ERRRRRRR... Must resist urge to.....

Arrrrrgggghhhh......

When I started I had dreams of becoming an expert... ARgggghhhh must not knee cap every one...

Pay your fees and race ARRRgggghhhh have so many things I want to ssss......


ARGGGGGGhhhhhh I LIKE KITTENS With Garlic and pepper...


ERrrrrrr


I don't have anything nice to say... so I'm going to stop...

Hey Tim, I hate to inform you, but Chris never made the .6 rider index. And no, he didn't petition to become a white plate either. You can pm me if you want to know.

Kevin

Hey Tim, I hate to inform you, but Chris never made the .6 rider index. And no, he didn't petition to become a white plate either. You can pm me if you want to know.

Kevin

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I contested twice and was shot down twice. Trust me, they know what they are doing! Shortly you will grow to be very happy that you're not in the novice super smash class. The expert class really needs more racers and you'll find you will always have some one to race against.

Congrats to all of you!!!

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I contested twice and was shot down twice. Trust me, they know what they are doing! Shortly you will grow to be very happy that you're not in the novice super smash class. The expert class really needs more racers and you'll find you will always have some one to race against.

Congrats to all of you!!!

Too many Novice's!!!

Must make more Experts, so as not to hear so much BS!!!

Too many Novice's!!!

Must make more Experts, so as not to hear so much BS!!!

I keep hearing that the BOD changed the rules.

Can someone tell me what rules were changed?

This is what the 2006 CMRA Rule Book has to say about the Rider Index.

The Novice rider must have entered at least 15 races to be included in consideration for advancement. The CMRA Board of Directors will determine the number of Novice riders to be advanced each season, and the Rider Index will be announced following the last race of each season. Riders with a Rider Index at and above the announced Rider Index are automatically moved up to Expert the following year.

It's clear that the BOD set's the "Rider Index" # at the end of each season.
So let's stop this "The BOD changed the rules" stuff.
The Index # should and will change each season.

For those that argue "You can't make me an Expert because I haven't won a Novice race yet".
If that were one of the requirements to be an Expert then most would never be promoted.
There have been several Expert champions that never scored a win as a Novice.
I can tell you from experience that most will rise to the competition.

I think it's time to put this to bed and start getting ready to race.

We only have 86 days left until the first event of 2007. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

I keep hearing that the BOD changed the rules.

Can someone tell me what rules were changed?

This is what the 2006 CMRA Rule Book has to say about the Rider Index.

The Novice rider must have entered at least 15 races to be included in consideration for advancement. The CMRA Board of Directors will determine the number of Novice riders to be advanced each season, and the Rider Index will be announced following the last race of each season. Riders with a Rider Index at and above the announced Rider Index are automatically moved up to Expert the following year.

It's clear that the BOD set's the "Rider Index" # at the end of each season.
So let's stop this "The BOD changed the rules" stuff.
The Index # should and will change each season.

For those that argue "You can't make me an Expert because I haven't won a Novice race yet".
If that were one of the requirements to be an Expert then most would never be promoted.
There have been several Expert champions that never scored a win as a Novice.
I can tell you from experience that most will rise to the competition.

I think it's time to put this to bed and start getting ready to race.

We only have 86 days left until the first event of 2007. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Things I have learned from this thread:

1. BOTH membership and club management have horrible reading comprehension skills.
2. People have zero compassion for the plight and challenges of others.
3. The management of this club has grown so tired of the people who support it that they have virtually zero patience for anything.
4. Almost nobody is sharp enough to realize that this mess was created not by the act of bumping additional riders but rather by the way it was done.

I manage people's perception for a living. Perception is reality to the perceiver. Until somebody learns to manage the perception of the members (CUSTOMERS) you will continue to see threads like this one. And for what it is worth, if I saw this thread before I joined, I would be figuring out my WERA schedule right now.

I agree with bumping more experts and said so at the board meeting. It just should have been a little more subjective, especially with some of the marginal riders who were getting bumped.

Things I have learned from this thread:

1. BOTH membership and club management have horrible reading comprehension skills.
2. People have zero compassion for the plight and challenges of others.
3. The management of this club has grown so tired of the people who support it that they have virtually zero patience for anything.
4. Almost nobody is sharp enough to realize that this mess was created not by the act of bumping additional riders but rather by the way it was done.

I manage people's perception for a living. Perception is reality to the perceiver. Until somebody learns to manage the perception of the members (CUSTOMERS) you will continue to see threads like this one. And for what it is worth, if I saw this thread before I joined, I would be figuring out my WERA schedule right now.

I agree with bumping more experts and said so at the board meeting. It just should have been a little more subjective, especially with some of the marginal riders who were getting bumped.

"I manage people's perception for a living." - (C.C.)

Soooooooo, does this mean you are a "con-man" by trade ???????? :p [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Ronnie

"I manage people's perception for a living." - (C.C.)

Soooooooo, does this mean you are a "con-man" by trade ???????? :p [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Ronnie

Thanks Chris,
As I have no people skills I'll just say what I need to and get on with having thanks for the things I do have. Everyone bumped has an appeals process they can follow if they choose. Those procedures are in the rulebook. The same rulebook oft quoted but seldom read.

Laptimes, position on grid and at the checkered flag, improvement over the course of the year, safety at speed as well as the rider’s index, are the objective things that went into the decision to bump or not. How I feel about someone’s riding or some other unquantifiable criteria did not sway me or the others who where voted into office to serve the club to the best of their abilities. If we're not doing right by the club vote for those you feel can do it better and then support them, or run yourself next year.

The comment on WERA noted.

Welcome to the new experts

Thanks Chris,
As I have no people skills I'll just say what I need to and get on with having thanks for the things I do have. Everyone bumped has an appeals process they can follow if they choose. Those procedures are in the rulebook. The same rulebook oft quoted but seldom read.

Laptimes, position on grid and at the checkered flag, improvement over the course of the year, safety at speed as well as the rider’s index, are the objective things that went into the decision to bump or not. How I feel about someone’s riding or some other unquantifiable criteria did not sway me or the others who where voted into office to serve the club to the best of their abilities. If we're not doing right by the club vote for those you feel can do it better and then support them, or run yourself next year.

The comment on WERA noted.

Welcome to the new experts

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Soooooooo, does this mean you are a "con-man" by trade ???????

I AM in sales afterall. :p

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Soooooooo, does this mean you are a "con-man" by trade ???????

I AM in sales afterall. :p

BTW, I am SOOOOO pumped to be an expert. I raced as a novice for three years and I darn near won a race in the tundra back in February. I am excited about finally getting to actually race against Falt, the person who got me into this (along with Dad) in the first place.

The .6 is hard to get. I had good finishes in all three years but if you wad it and get hurt once a twice a year it really jacks you up. I have to say, I am very proud of finally reaching one of my personal goals. I set one each year.

Year 1: Live through the year (done).
Year 2: Finish top three in championship (done).
Year 3: Get white plates for christ sake (done).
This year: Do what it take to get an invite to the GNF.

I keep my expectations reasonable so I always walk away feeling like a champ. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

BTW, I am SOOOOO pumped to be an expert. I raced as a novice for three years and I darn near won a race in the tundra back in February. I am excited about finally getting to actually race against Falt, the person who got me into this (along with Dad) in the first place.

The .6 is hard to get. I had good finishes in all three years but if you wad it and get hurt once a twice a year it really jacks you up. I have to say, I am very proud of finally reaching one of my personal goals. I set one each year.

Year 1: Live through the year (done).
Year 2: Finish top three in championship (done).
Year 3: Get white plates for christ sake (done).
This year: Do what it take to get an invite to the GNF.

I keep my expectations reasonable so I always walk away feeling like a champ. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

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Originally posted by christophercorder325:
Things I have learned from this thread:

1. BOTH membership and club management have horrible reading comprehension skills.
2. People have zero compassion for the plight and challenges of others.
3. The management of this club has grown so tired of the people who support it that they have virtually zero patience for anything.
4. Almost nobody is sharp enough to realize that this mess was created not by the act of bumping additional riders but rather by the way it was done.

I manage people's perception for a living. Perception is reality to the perceiver. Until somebody learns to manage the perception of the members (CUSTOMERS) you will continue to see threads like this one. And for what it is worth, if I saw this thread before I joined, I would be figuring out my WERA schedule right now.

I agree with bumping more experts and said so at the board meeting. It just should have been a little more subjective, especially with some of the marginal riders who were getting bumped.

Chris,
You might be right, who's to say. But here is my perception. We are living in a Wal-Mart society. People have come to believe if they gripe enough they will get their way. I am sympathetic to the concerns these guys have and I will bet our BoD is as well; But any business has the right to change the rules to ensure to the prosperity of the business. I agree more thought should have been put into where the bar was set for advancement before the first announcement, but what is done is done. If I see anything in this thread it is a lack of respect for authority, not apathy by the management.

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Originally posted by christophercorder325:
Things I have learned from this thread:

1. BOTH membership and club management have horrible reading comprehension skills.
2. People have zero compassion for the plight and challenges of others.
3. The management of this club has grown so tired of the people who support it that they have virtually zero patience for anything.
4. Almost nobody is sharp enough to realize that this mess was created not by the act of bumping additional riders but rather by the way it was done.

I manage people's perception for a living. Perception is reality to the perceiver. Until somebody learns to manage the perception of the members (CUSTOMERS) you will continue to see threads like this one. And for what it is worth, if I saw this thread before I joined, I would be figuring out my WERA schedule right now.

I agree with bumping more experts and said so at the board meeting. It just should have been a little more subjective, especially with some of the marginal riders who were getting bumped.

Chris,
You might be right, who's to say. But here is my perception. We are living in a Wal-Mart society. People have come to believe if they gripe enough they will get their way. I am sympathetic to the concerns these guys have and I will bet our BoD is as well; But any business has the right to change the rules to ensure to the prosperity of the business. I agree more thought should have been put into where the bar was set for advancement before the first announcement, but what is done is done. If I see anything in this thread it is a lack of respect for authority, not apathy by the management.

There seems to be a sense of entitlement present in some. The thought is that if I join CMRA, I should be put on a path that leads to top 3 finishes consistently and has a good chance to result in a novice class championship. That's not what I perceive CMRA or any racing to be about and I don't like the thought of it. There are no participant ribbons to make everyone feel like a "Winner". We keep score. Someone wins and some other dont't - some don't win now by might later and some never will win or even do well at any level in any endeavour.
Look at the AMA grids, the MotoGP grids, the 125 Juniors MX - most of the racers know there is a handful of go-fast guys who have a chance and the others are trying for personal bests and improvements. I raced MX when I was younger and had one win. I eventually got to the point where I thought I would be top four or five, depending, and might get a crappy, cheap trophy (I still have all of them). That was good for me but no one owed me any of it.
In CMRA I amazed myself by reaching the head of the pack. Part of it was using a check book to buy the power that got me there but there was some rider improvement. No one owed me this and I could have continued into the future without getting to mid pack and still accomplished my goal - having fun riding a motorbike faster than is really safe and trying always to go faster.
As a 58 year old "Expert" on a beautiful, new 600 I have high expectations for fun and no expectations of being "competitive". There will be someone in the back who I will play with and it will be GOOD!

I identify with and sympathize with Tim because I can see myself studying the results to find the class where I could have the best chance to succeed and then charging forward with checks flying only to find that those same bikes put you in an Expert class where you have no chance. BUT, you have no chance maybe in 2007. Tim and a lot of you do have a chance in the future to be successful in Experts. Get a good bike, keep it good, spend money on tires and practice like Troy Green said and who knows where you will go. Be very grateful you have the racer mentality to get out there and do things that would paralyze others with fear. Be very glad you have the age, health, strength to help you improve. Things can change in the twinkling of an eye so grab what you can.

As I said, I'm 58 and my attitude is that they'll have to pry the throttle out of my cold, dead fingers before I'll quit and before I'll quit trying to catch the guy in front of my. I don't care what class it is.

The Board is listening more attentively than you can imagine and the message has been received. Now,let's just race guys. Screw all this and just go have fun. Keep your day job and let's look forward to chopping up someone on the track.

One last thing before I stop this uncharacteristic post. Roger Albert - I don't ever again want to hear you down yourself. Self-deprecation is a lot of my style too but there's a time and place to stop. You passed it many posts ago. You gotta start thinking "fast". You gotta get the Nick Danger, dangerous in the world of men attitude (thanks to Steve McQueen for those terms)

I picked up my bike from Mike Patterson this week. It's incredibly beautiful and has me wired to the max. It's going to be a great year!

There seems to be a sense of entitlement present in some. The thought is that if I join CMRA, I should be put on a path that leads to top 3 finishes consistently and has a good chance to result in a novice class championship. That's not what I perceive CMRA or any racing to be about and I don't like the thought of it. There are no participant ribbons to make everyone feel like a "Winner". We keep score. Someone wins and some other dont't - some don't win now by might later and some never will win or even do well at any level in any endeavour.
Look at the AMA grids, the MotoGP grids, the 125 Juniors MX - most of the racers know there is a handful of go-fast guys who have a chance and the others are trying for personal bests and improvements. I raced MX when I was younger and had one win. I eventually got to the point where I thought I would be top four or five, depending, and might get a crappy, cheap trophy (I still have all of them). That was good for me but no one owed me any of it.
In CMRA I amazed myself by reaching the head of the pack. Part of it was using a check book to buy the power that got me there but there was some rider improvement. No one owed me this and I could have continued into the future without getting to mid pack and still accomplished my goal - having fun riding a motorbike faster than is really safe and trying always to go faster.
As a 58 year old "Expert" on a beautiful, new 600 I have high expectations for fun and no expectations of being "competitive". There will be someone in the back who I will play with and it will be GOOD!

I identify with and sympathize with Tim because I can see myself studying the results to find the class where I could have the best chance to succeed and then charging forward with checks flying only to find that those same bikes put you in an Expert class where you have no chance. BUT, you have no chance maybe in 2007. Tim and a lot of you do have a chance in the future to be successful in Experts. Get a good bike, keep it good, spend money on tires and practice like Troy Green said and who knows where you will go. Be very grateful you have the racer mentality to get out there and do things that would paralyze others with fear. Be very glad you have the age, health, strength to help you improve. Things can change in the twinkling of an eye so grab what you can.

As I said, I'm 58 and my attitude is that they'll have to pry the throttle out of my cold, dead fingers before I'll quit and before I'll quit trying to catch the guy in front of my. I don't care what class it is.

The Board is listening more attentively than you can imagine and the message has been received. Now,let's just race guys. Screw all this and just go have fun. Keep your day job and let's look forward to chopping up someone on the track.

One last thing before I stop this uncharacteristic post. Roger Albert - I don't ever again want to hear you down yourself. Self-deprecation is a lot of my style too but there's a time and place to stop. You passed it many posts ago. You gotta start thinking "fast". You gotta get the Nick Danger, dangerous in the world of men attitude (thanks to Steve McQueen for those terms)

I picked up my bike from Mike Patterson this week. It's incredibly beautiful and has me wired to the max. It's going to be a great year!

All the riders should have been moved at once. Im sure the BOD will make the right choice. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] I dont feel Im ready for expert. I would rather see a Intermediate class. They could race with the experts.TIIIMMMMY

All the riders should have been moved at once. Im sure the BOD will make the right choice. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] I dont feel Im ready for expert. I would rather see a Intermediate class. They could race with the experts.TIIIMMMMY

Tim this year they will have a
1st
2nd & 3rd place Rookie Expert award in each Expert class. It you are Rookie Ex and finish any where in the Expert class and you are the 1st 2nd or 3rd place Rookie you will get an award so there is an intermediate class if thats what you want to call it.

Tim this year they will have a
1st
2nd & 3rd place Rookie Expert award in each Expert class. It you are Rookie Ex and finish any where in the Expert class and you are the 1st 2nd or 3rd place Rookie you will get an award so there is an intermediate class if thats what you want to call it.

I agree with Frank 100%. I raced for years and not only NEVER won but also could seldom even see the lead group. But I had the time of my life and always kept the corner workers amused with the 'flying frog' antics. It was not that I didn't want to win-I spent way to much to build really good stuff that I didn't have the talent to operate-I just was talent challenged. If all we can do is complain about not being the big dog, then we are missing the point-this supposed to be fun!!! If you are not having fun then you should find some other outlet where you can. I'm still having a GREAT time with this club and can't think of anything else that would give me this much life enhancing pleasure.

Pax, Kevin

I agree with Frank 100%. I raced for years and not only NEVER won but also could seldom even see the lead group. But I had the time of my life and always kept the corner workers amused with the 'flying frog' antics. It was not that I didn't want to win-I spent way to much to build really good stuff that I didn't have the talent to operate-I just was talent challenged. If all we can do is complain about not being the big dog, then we are missing the point-this supposed to be fun!!! If you are not having fun then you should find some other outlet where you can. I'm still having a GREAT time with this club and can't think of anything else that would give me this much life enhancing pleasure.

Pax, Kevin

Lets get rid of Kelchers silly program of deciding the novices.

Lets go back to the top 5 or 10(whatever) in EVERY class getting bumped.

Lets get rid of Kelchers silly program of deciding the novices.

Lets go back to the top 5 or 10(whatever) in EVERY class getting bumped.

Ok Keith Your Expert next year.

Ok Keith Your Expert next year.

Doh! But I can't handle the PRESSURE, Norm.

Plus, I never won a Novice Championship.

Oh yea, I'm also old and fat.

Can I have an old and fat only class to race in.

Don't forget the Ugly class too.

I could win the Fat and Ugly Heavyweight class. (maybe)

Doh! But I can't handle the PRESSURE, Norm.

Plus, I never won a Novice Championship.

Oh yea, I'm also old and fat.

Can I have an old and fat only class to race in.

Don't forget the Ugly class too.

I could win the Fat and Ugly Heavyweight class. (maybe)

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Originally posted by Keith Hertell #11:
Can I have an old and fat only class to race in.

You want company? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith Hertell #11:
Can I have an old and fat only class to race in.

You want company? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/laugh.gif[/img]

Thanks for the advice Frank.
Now I feel bad for feeling bad about myself. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Fwiw, I'm not aiming for self deprecation so much as stating an honest self eval and facts.

No worries. Seriously, I'm still having fun.
While it was more than a bit sobering to review my SV results (I'd been quite happy, apparently over-focusing on the mini stuff and improvement there) I'm not really down. I just know where I stand right now, which factually, is pretty far down the pecking order, as pertains to laptimes and finishes. No biggie. I'm neither down nor up about it. It is what it is, and one day, it will likely be better. I happen to think that it will be better sooner if I'm riding around a group of peers, or people a moderate amount faster than me. I very much appreciate, and believe the advice many experts have posted (thanks all), that riding around with faster experts can make you faster. But it seems to me you have to be riding around with them, to be riding around with them, if you'll excuse the MickeyMantle-ism. Since I'm most often way back by myself even in the novices, it stands to reason I can only be back still further in the expert ranks. That precludes the idea of improvement by proximity. Make sense? Anyway, I'm not trying to whine, or be all Mr. Downer. Just stating where I feel I belong, and why. I sent the board a letter on it and they'll decide and I'll abide. Simple as that. Thanks for the words at any rate.

Thanks for the advice Frank.
Now I feel bad for feeling bad about myself. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]
Fwiw, I'm not aiming for self deprecation so much as stating an honest self eval and facts.

No worries. Seriously, I'm still having fun.
While it was more than a bit sobering to review my SV results (I'd been quite happy, apparently over-focusing on the mini stuff and improvement there) I'm not really down. I just know where I stand right now, which factually, is pretty far down the pecking order, as pertains to laptimes and finishes. No biggie. I'm neither down nor up about it. It is what it is, and one day, it will likely be better. I happen to think that it will be better sooner if I'm riding around a group of peers, or people a moderate amount faster than me. I very much appreciate, and believe the advice many experts have posted (thanks all), that riding around with faster experts can make you faster. But it seems to me you have to be riding around with them, to be riding around with them, if you'll excuse the MickeyMantle-ism. Since I'm most often way back by myself even in the novices, it stands to reason I can only be back still further in the expert ranks. That precludes the idea of improvement by proximity. Make sense? Anyway, I'm not trying to whine, or be all Mr. Downer. Just stating where I feel I belong, and why. I sent the board a letter on it and they'll decide and I'll abide. Simple as that. Thanks for the words at any rate.