Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Thats exactly what it boils down to.
This is as much Blakes club as it is mine
or anyone elses.
BUT.....
Unless you have something constructive to offer
don't critasize without knowing all the facts.
Barry and the rest of the crew would be more then happy to listen to any sugestions that
could help aliviate the situation with corner
workers. If some one could find a permanant
and workable solution they'd probably be elected
king.
Complaining has never helped anything.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Thats exactly what it boils down to.
This is as much Blakes club as it is mine
or anyone elses.
BUT.....
Unless you have something constructive to offer
don't critasize without knowing all the facts.
Barry and the rest of the crew would be more then happy to listen to any sugestions that
could help aliviate the situation with corner
workers. If some one could find a permanant
and workable solution they'd probably be elected
king.
Complaining has never helped anything.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
I have been doing this for a few years now, and think the corner workers do a pretty good job considering the mass majority are volunteers. Barry and Claire are huge part of the infrastructure of this club. These two people give up allot of time every year so we can have fun and be as safe as possible. They also perform numerous other duty's behind the scenes. You should be praising them not critizing them!
So Blake next time you want to criticize make sure you have some form of suggestion to go along with it. This club is a business, but it is also a big family that takes care of one another, and I couldn't think of any body else that I would want looking out for my safety than Barry and Claire.
Tim Haas
CMRA #4
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
I have been doing this for a few years now, and think the corner workers do a pretty good job considering the mass majority are volunteers. Barry and Claire are huge part of the infrastructure of this club. These two people give up allot of time every year so we can have fun and be as safe as possible. They also perform numerous other duty's behind the scenes. You should be praising them not critizing them!
So Blake next time you want to criticize make sure you have some form of suggestion to go along with it. This club is a business, but it is also a big family that takes care of one another, and I couldn't think of any body else that I would want looking out for my safety than Barry and Claire.
Tim Haas
CMRA #4
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Having raced, cornerworked, and moer with the CMRA for over 7 years, I have one simple question.
This is for everyone, not just Blake.
When was the last time you gave a thumbs up to the corner workers on your cool down lap?
When was the last time you walked up to them at the end of the day and shook their hands and said "thanks"?
Not here, not in a general 'thanks to the cornerworker' statement, but a genuine, in person thank you???
While we do get about half of our corner workers from the Prov-am requirements, the other half are out there just to help out.
They have to be at the track at 6:30 am, and on Saturday get a 'lunch' at 10am for about 20 minutes. Other than that they work 12 hours straight, for $40 (or free if they are doing it for amatuer status)
They end the day famished and sunburnt.
There are very few (Cindy Bolt is one) who want to run the entire circuit for this kind of work.
What I ask, is that the racers show their appreciation from time to time. Wave on the cool off lap, come up to them after the race and offer them a drink or just say thanks in person.
(How about saying thanks in advance at the beginning of the day?
I bet it would go a long way to improving our cornerworker attitude.
It is the hardest, most underappreciated task in roadracing.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Having raced, cornerworked, and moer with the CMRA for over 7 years, I have one simple question.
This is for everyone, not just Blake.
When was the last time you gave a thumbs up to the corner workers on your cool down lap?
When was the last time you walked up to them at the end of the day and shook their hands and said "thanks"?
Not here, not in a general 'thanks to the cornerworker' statement, but a genuine, in person thank you???
While we do get about half of our corner workers from the Prov-am requirements, the other half are out there just to help out.
They have to be at the track at 6:30 am, and on Saturday get a 'lunch' at 10am for about 20 minutes. Other than that they work 12 hours straight, for $40 (or free if they are doing it for amatuer status)
They end the day famished and sunburnt.
There are very few (Cindy Bolt is one) who want to run the entire circuit for this kind of work.
What I ask, is that the racers show their appreciation from time to time. Wave on the cool off lap, come up to them after the race and offer them a drink or just say thanks in person.
(How about saying thanks in advance at the beginning of the day?
I bet it would go a long way to improving our cornerworker attitude.
It is the hardest, most underappreciated task in roadracing.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Bryan,
Excellent points. I try to wave on the cool-down lap, but sometimes get halfway through before my brain releases from "race mode" and I remember.
Just a tiny little thought: if the corner workers could make it, why not have a moment either at the rider's meeting or at the awards presentation where they are noted, pointed out, introduced as a group, and all the riders could at the very minimum, give them a nice round of applause. These folks are facilitating our habit and we ought to try and at least give them a warm fuzzy.
Would also help enable us to find the right people to thank at the end of the day (other than catching them while they're still in the cornerworker's shirt).
Just a thought,
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
Bryan,
Excellent points. I try to wave on the cool-down lap, but sometimes get halfway through before my brain releases from "race mode" and I remember.
Just a tiny little thought: if the corner workers could make it, why not have a moment either at the rider's meeting or at the awards presentation where they are noted, pointed out, introduced as a group, and all the riders could at the very minimum, give them a nice round of applause. These folks are facilitating our habit and we ought to try and at least give them a warm fuzzy.
Would also help enable us to find the right people to thank at the end of the day (other than catching them while they're still in the cornerworker's shirt).
Just a thought,
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
last year they had a drawing every weekend for a gift certificate to macaroni grill or something like that that was donated. that was pretty cool for the cornerworkers. Some even brought donuts or kolaches early in the morning for them before they went out. Its the little things that make it worthwhile.
Re: Underwhelming Flagging
last year they had a drawing every weekend for a gift certificate to macaroni grill or something like that that was donated. that was pretty cool for the cornerworkers. Some even brought donuts or kolaches early in the morning for them before they went out. Its the little things that make it worthwhile.