What do you get from an affiliation?

I enjoy our membership speaking up, and this is a good venue (ok it's mostly marcus and emmitt)

What if -

The big gun 'national' gnf-roc-whatever was held at TWS at the end of the year with big cash purses?

The big gun 'national' gnf-roc-whatever rotated among tracks so that a 'home club' didn't have any particular advantages?

Doesn't it seem logical that for ANY national based organization that the final event should be somewhat centrally located?
I see some logic in Daytona, it is 'DAYTONA' but while I have never been there it sounds like a horrible track to showcase rider skills as it's all about the horsepower.
I see a little more logic in Road Atlanta, especially for a primarily East coast based organization. The track is nice, but it is definately not centrally located. My one experience there was no fun and I crashed my brains out anyway.

To me, there would be a centrally located track (Hallett would be great if it could accomodate such an event but I think it would need a little more infrastructure improvement to host such a large event) that hosted a wiz bang end of year event.

IF (And I say a big if because I place some value in an affiliation) the CMRA was an independant, that $20k-$30k could be put up as purse money at this final event.
(Just think, on top of the bike manufacture's contingency and all others, there is a $1500 cash purse in EVERY expert class, and something for the amatuers as well)

For those that remember our independant status (I think it was two years) the first year we took the money that would have been spent toward affiliation, and paid it out as a rider's points fund. $20,000 in cash paid out at the banquet.

That would be the benefit of going to an independant status. Take the money we are spending and use it elsewhere. While the club should and must be run as a business, the advantage of a non-profit over a for-profit is that the club only needs to end the year with a meager positive balance. Any money raised in excess of what is required should be distributed among the members in some form.
(This could be an electronic scoring system, cash purses, lowered entry fees, or even all the above)

I enjoy our membership speaking up, and this is a good venue (ok it's mostly marcus and emmitt)

What if -

The big gun 'national' gnf-roc-whatever was held at TWS at the end of the year with big cash purses?

The big gun 'national' gnf-roc-whatever rotated among tracks so that a 'home club' didn't have any particular advantages?

Doesn't it seem logical that for ANY national based organization that the final event should be somewhat centrally located?
I see some logic in Daytona, it is 'DAYTONA' but while I have never been there it sounds like a horrible track to showcase rider skills as it's all about the horsepower.
I see a little more logic in Road Atlanta, especially for a primarily East coast based organization. The track is nice, but it is definately not centrally located. My one experience there was no fun and I crashed my brains out anyway.

To me, there would be a centrally located track (Hallett would be great if it could accomodate such an event but I think it would need a little more infrastructure improvement to host such a large event) that hosted a wiz bang end of year event.

IF (And I say a big if because I place some value in an affiliation) the CMRA was an independant, that $20k-$30k could be put up as purse money at this final event.
(Just think, on top of the bike manufacture's contingency and all others, there is a $1500 cash purse in EVERY expert class, and something for the amatuers as well)

For those that remember our independant status (I think it was two years) the first year we took the money that would have been spent toward affiliation, and paid it out as a rider's points fund. $20,000 in cash paid out at the banquet.

That would be the benefit of going to an independant status. Take the money we are spending and use it elsewhere. While the club should and must be run as a business, the advantage of a non-profit over a for-profit is that the club only needs to end the year with a meager positive balance. Any money raised in excess of what is required should be distributed among the members in some form.
(This could be an electronic scoring system, cash purses, lowered entry fees, or even all the above)

Hey Bryan,

That is what I meant by leaveraging the commoditized value of what the club has. Has CMRA (which represents over 5K annual entries, which I think is 1/3 of the CCS total "claim") leveraged this as a negotiating tool? I believe the last thing we need is "Another Big Race" in this country. In my opinion we need to proactively work within the existing infrastructure to promote growth rather that optically dilute the product itself.

Marcus

Hey Bryan,

That is what I meant by leaveraging the commoditized value of what the club has. Has CMRA (which represents over 5K annual entries, which I think is 1/3 of the CCS total "claim") leveraged this as a negotiating tool? I believe the last thing we need is "Another Big Race" in this country. In my opinion we need to proactively work within the existing infrastructure to promote growth rather that optically dilute the product itself.

Marcus

Jesus Marcus, since I will only race minis and motard this year and will hit only about 80% of the races, I fall into that OTHER 50% of the club that just lurks on this BBS. Hence, I don't count.

Sometimes the things you say are so...

Never mind.

Jesus Marcus, since I will only race minis and motard this year and will hit only about 80% of the races, I fall into that OTHER 50% of the club that just lurks on this BBS. Hence, I don't count.

Sometimes the things you say are so...

Never mind.

I'm reading a lot of words, but not a lot of content. What is the true benefit for the average racer of being affiliated w/CCS?

Bottom line it...

I'm reading a lot of words, but not a lot of content. What is the true benefit for the average racer of being affiliated w/CCS?

Bottom line it...

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Thomas:
Jesus Marcus, since I will only race minis and motard this year and will hit only about 80% of the races, I fall into that OTHER 50% of the club that just lurks on this BBS. Hence, I don't count.

Sometimes the things you say are so...

Never mind.

Hey Chris,

If you want to get offended, GO FOR IT. The point I was making was, "Let's identify who is paying the bills" rather than a BBS referendum that is a not a neccessarily accurate view of the club demographics.

Personally, I don't spend much time thinking about mini's. I know they are fun, but I just haven't really been into "that scene". I know the mini's push money through the club, so obviously there should be representation, but again, at some point, someone who has some long term experience has to step up to the plate and answer, "Is this is what is best for motorcycle roadracing in the south central region?"

Marcus

Quote:

Originally posted by Chris Thomas:
Jesus Marcus, since I will only race minis and motard this year and will hit only about 80% of the races, I fall into that OTHER 50% of the club that just lurks on this BBS. Hence, I don't count.

Sometimes the things you say are so...

Never mind.

Hey Chris,

If you want to get offended, GO FOR IT. The point I was making was, "Let's identify who is paying the bills" rather than a BBS referendum that is a not a neccessarily accurate view of the club demographics.

Personally, I don't spend much time thinking about mini's. I know they are fun, but I just haven't really been into "that scene". I know the mini's push money through the club, so obviously there should be representation, but again, at some point, someone who has some long term experience has to step up to the plate and answer, "Is this is what is best for motorcycle roadracing in the south central region?"

Marcus