Please Read - Additional Rookie Experts for 2007!

Thank you to all who turned out on Saturday for the open membership meeting prior to the banquet. This was great opportunity for the membership to provide your BOD with input, ideas and suggestions.
A main topic of discussion was promoting riders from Novice to Expert. There was overwhelming support to revise the criteria and advance more racers to compete at the Expert level.

Please join the BOD in congratulating the following additional riders who have been promoted to Expert for 2007:

ROGER ALBERT
IGAL ASKEROGLU
TIM CHASON
CHARLES CHRISTINE
LUKE CONLIN
FREDDIE CORLEY
BRIAN FOX
RUSSEL GREEN
CHRIS HOLDERNESS
HAROLD JOHNSON
JEFF JORDAN
JEROMY KUMPER
CHRIS KUTALEK
BILLY LEE
BUDDY LOHR
TRAVIS MARSHALL
DAVID NOLDEN
JOE RALEY
PATRICK STOHRER
SUNIL THANDASSERY
DAVID W. WILSON

These are in addition to the previously posted group. Best of luck to all for the coming season.

Thank you to all who turned out on Saturday for the open membership meeting prior to the banquet. This was great opportunity for the membership to provide your BOD with input, ideas and suggestions.
A main topic of discussion was promoting riders from Novice to Expert. There was overwhelming support to revise the criteria and advance more racers to compete at the Expert level.

Please join the BOD in congratulating the following additional riders who have been promoted to Expert for 2007:

ROGER ALBERT
IGAL ASKEROGLU
TIM CHASON
CHARLES CHRISTINE
LUKE CONLIN
FREDDIE CORLEY
BRIAN FOX
RUSSEL GREEN
CHRIS HOLDERNESS
HAROLD JOHNSON
JEFF JORDAN
JEROMY KUMPER
CHRIS KUTALEK
BILLY LEE
BUDDY LOHR
TRAVIS MARSHALL
DAVID NOLDEN
JOE RALEY
PATRICK STOHRER
SUNIL THANDASSERY
DAVID W. WILSON

These are in addition to the previously posted group. Best of luck to all for the coming season.

congrats to all...

congrats to all...

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Yeah. What Corder said.

Yeah. What Corder said.

Just an explanation to those who didn't attend the open meeting, it was decided to promote more novices in order to keep them racing together. Much of the fun amonst the promoted novices was lost when they found themselves racing alone in the expert class. More people racing each other in expert class = more people having fun = more riders sticking around.

If you truly feel like you can't move up, you can appeal to the BOD after the 2nd race weekend.

Jess

Just an explanation to those who didn't attend the open meeting, it was decided to promote more novices in order to keep them racing together. Much of the fun amonst the promoted novices was lost when they found themselves racing alone in the expert class. More people racing each other in expert class = more people having fun = more riders sticking around.

If you truly feel like you can't move up, you can appeal to the BOD after the 2nd race weekend.

Jess

I like it. It helps keep you with the people you came in with which is fun. I think it is great that Keene bumped earlier in the year but we missed seeing each other on the track much after that. Plus, you can still appeal if you feel like you are not ready. Its a win win.

I like it. It helps keep you with the people you came in with which is fun. I think it is great that Keene bumped earlier in the year but we missed seeing each other on the track much after that. Plus, you can still appeal if you feel like you are not ready. Its a win win.

So keeping those people who rode together all in the same bunch is the same as saying they are advanced enough as a Novice to move up to Expert? Hmmm....I guess I have to question what the qualification process was to pick the select few listed above?

So keeping those people who rode together all in the same bunch is the same as saying they are advanced enough as a Novice to move up to Expert? Hmmm....I guess I have to question what the qualification process was to pick the select few listed above?

After checking results and lap times everyone should be proud of the accomplishment and the recognition of it...

Good show to all and I'll see ya on the grid

After checking results and lap times everyone should be proud of the accomplishment and the recognition of it...

Good show to all and I'll see ya on the grid

4.3 Index and my best finish was like 12th out of 15 riders. How did the BOD qualify the riders? Because there are other riders with higher Index that didnt get moved up [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] My fastest track is one we dont race at and Im still 5 seconds of Bucks pace there. I understand the need to move riders up.I understand if your even close to what the rule book says you have the chance to get moved. However when you are a little over half way there 4.3 that doesnt make since to me. Roger, and Chris had a good year in F7 thats the slowiest class in our club. I dont think anybody could say with a straight face since you do good on a XR100 your getting moved to expert [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] So if you do race a 600 you get to race with TY,TYLER,BIG R and the rest of the AMA pros. In closing if the BOD looked at my lap times on my 600 you cant possibly say I am a expert rider. So I will ask again what where the Qulifications for getting moved to expert? Thanks TIIIMMMMY

4.3 Index and my best finish was like 12th out of 15 riders. How did the BOD qualify the riders? Because there are other riders with higher Index that didnt get moved up [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] My fastest track is one we dont race at and Im still 5 seconds of Bucks pace there. I understand the need to move riders up.I understand if your even close to what the rule book says you have the chance to get moved. However when you are a little over half way there 4.3 that doesnt make since to me. Roger, and Chris had a good year in F7 thats the slowiest class in our club. I dont think anybody could say with a straight face since you do good on a XR100 your getting moved to expert [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] So if you do race a 600 you get to race with TY,TYLER,BIG R and the rest of the AMA pros. In closing if the BOD looked at my lap times on my 600 you cant possibly say I am a expert rider. So I will ask again what where the Qulifications for getting moved to expert? Thanks TIIIMMMMY

One thing to consider in the future. Dont post names that arent getting moved and then come back and say opps sorry. By that time decisions have been made on what classes we will race and money has been spent [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] I asked several times if I was getting moved to Expert the reply was always NO!!!!! Now thousands of dollars have been spent on building bikes that I wont race [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] NOT HAPPY,NOT HAPPY [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] The post clearly states any rider with a .6 or higer or a winner of a championship will be moved up.I cant find any where the post states that other riders will be moved up. From reading the minutes the BOD agreed no more riders would be moved up.Some body suggest that more riders get moved up and we throw the rule book out. Has anybody asked the people on the list if they wanted to move up? The BOD is allways saying rules are rules! So what happened here? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] Is the BOD going to refund the money I have spent to build bikes on there rulling or change of rulling. I cant find anywhere that says the expert list will change. TIIIMMMMY

One thing to consider in the future. Dont post names that arent getting moved and then come back and say opps sorry. By that time decisions have been made on what classes we will race and money has been spent [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] I asked several times if I was getting moved to Expert the reply was always NO!!!!! Now thousands of dollars have been spent on building bikes that I wont race [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] NOT HAPPY,NOT HAPPY [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] The post clearly states any rider with a .6 or higer or a winner of a championship will be moved up.I cant find any where the post states that other riders will be moved up. From reading the minutes the BOD agreed no more riders would be moved up.Some body suggest that more riders get moved up and we throw the rule book out. Has anybody asked the people on the list if they wanted to move up? The BOD is allways saying rules are rules! So what happened here? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] Is the BOD going to refund the money I have spent to build bikes on there rulling or change of rulling. I cant find anywhere that says the expert list will change. TIIIMMMMY

Because it will be fun Tim.
Just think more people to race with in every class.
Sounds like fun to Me

Because it will be fun Tim.
Just think more people to race with in every class.
Sounds like fun to Me

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim Chason:
One thing to consider in the future. Dont post names that arent getting moved and then come back and say opps sorry. By that time decisions have been made on what classes we will race and money has been spent [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] I asked several times if I was getting moved to Expert the reply was always NO!!!!! Now thousands of dollars have been spent on building bikes that I wont race [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] NOT HAPPY,NOT HAPPY [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] The post clearly states any rider with a .6 or higer or a winner of a championship will be moved up.I cant find any where the post states that other riders will be moved up. From reading the minutes the BOD agreed no more riders would be moved up.Some body suggest that more riders get moved up and we throw the rule book out. Has anybody asked the people on the list if they wanted to move up? The BOD is allways saying rules are rules! So what happened here? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] Is the BOD going to refund the money I have spent to build bikes on there rulling or change of rulling. I cant find anywhere that says the expert list will change. TIIIMMMMY

Maybe they figured that if you want to talk like the big boys, walk like the big boys, they would put you with the big boys. What's money, what's mouth, and what meets.

Now go give em hell.

Congrats to all, much deserved recognition.

Quote:

Originally posted by Tim Chason:
One thing to consider in the future. Dont post names that arent getting moved and then come back and say opps sorry. By that time decisions have been made on what classes we will race and money has been spent [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] I asked several times if I was getting moved to Expert the reply was always NO!!!!! Now thousands of dollars have been spent on building bikes that I wont race [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] NOT HAPPY,NOT HAPPY [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/mad.gif[/img] The post clearly states any rider with a .6 or higer or a winner of a championship will be moved up.I cant find any where the post states that other riders will be moved up. From reading the minutes the BOD agreed no more riders would be moved up.Some body suggest that more riders get moved up and we throw the rule book out. Has anybody asked the people on the list if they wanted to move up? The BOD is allways saying rules are rules! So what happened here? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] Is the BOD going to refund the money I have spent to build bikes on there rulling or change of rulling. I cant find anywhere that says the expert list will change. TIIIMMMMY

Maybe they figured that if you want to talk like the big boys, walk like the big boys, they would put you with the big boys. What's money, what's mouth, and what meets.

Now go give em hell.

Congrats to all, much deserved recognition.

If the people in this "extra experts" list dont want to be experts, they should not have to wait 2 race weekends to appeal. If riders are alot slower than experts, but racing against them... i dont see how that could be more fun or even safe.

This is last reason I thought people would be bumped to expert... for fun and not for skill? Dont we split up the experts/novices for safety reasons?

If the people in this "extra experts" list dont want to be experts, they should not have to wait 2 race weekends to appeal. If riders are alot slower than experts, but racing against them... i dont see how that could be more fun or even safe.

This is last reason I thought people would be bumped to expert... for fun and not for skill? Dont we split up the experts/novices for safety reasons?

Thanks David, but I wouldn't say that I personally _deserve_ expert. That would kind of cheapen the accomplishment for all, don't you think [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Boy, I hate to publicly, and in _written_ fashion no less, agree with Tim on anything [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] but the only way I could possibly have gotten bumped would be to my mad (sad?) skillz on an XR100.

Though I sat in on the open meeting, and support and understand the decision, I can't believe a couple of us that have ended up on the new list.

Looked at on the basis of big bikes (and the minis shouldn't really matter, given the lesser required skills, and the fact that they're run with both expert and novice combined anyway), I'm personally not terribly qualified. One need only look, even casually, at my laptimes. Heck, I'm slower on an SV that Tim on a Motard, as he's publicly stated in the past [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] (sad but true) If I were at the back of the pack during a race, it would be one thing, but generally, after a lap or two, I'm not even in sight of the pack (even among other lightweight novices) and invariably am getting lapped before races end, normally by a number of other riders.

I don't want to be one of those sandbagger guys.
I just want come up to speed (literally and figuratively) as my skills develop, and be racing amongst my laptime peers. Again, I generally don't even run well enough to be out of the bottom couple people amongst other novices. Often times out circulating all by myself, too far behind to see, or learn from even the other slow, but still-quicker-than me novices. That state of affairs will be much worse with me in "amongst" (read: well well behind) the experts. Lastly, I don't feel it's safe for either me, or other experts who should rightly expect a certain level of knowledge, consistency and predictability from other white plates. I can't wait to be an expert one day. It's a strong goal. But I want to earn and deserve it, and be ready and safe in it.

I hope the powers that be will review this decision _before_ the next season. I hope that they will look away from mini results (especially just F7) and look at both laptimes and finishes. And on the latter, if you see a 3rd, note carefully that there were only 4 or 5 people, and two of them ran off the track.

Again, I support and understand the whole idea.
But I think the criteria maybe have been either poorly selected, or have been made in too blanket of a fashion (mixing mini and big bike results --- in one of them I look pretty cool, in the other like an idiot. I fear the latter is more representative)

Lastly, remember, I'm the one that can type and spell (usually) and Timmy the one that can ride.
Promote him, not me [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Thanks David, but I wouldn't say that I personally _deserve_ expert. That would kind of cheapen the accomplishment for all, don't you think [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Boy, I hate to publicly, and in _written_ fashion no less, agree with Tim on anything [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] but the only way I could possibly have gotten bumped would be to my mad (sad?) skillz on an XR100.

Though I sat in on the open meeting, and support and understand the decision, I can't believe a couple of us that have ended up on the new list.

Looked at on the basis of big bikes (and the minis shouldn't really matter, given the lesser required skills, and the fact that they're run with both expert and novice combined anyway), I'm personally not terribly qualified. One need only look, even casually, at my laptimes. Heck, I'm slower on an SV that Tim on a Motard, as he's publicly stated in the past [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] (sad but true) If I were at the back of the pack during a race, it would be one thing, but generally, after a lap or two, I'm not even in sight of the pack (even among other lightweight novices) and invariably am getting lapped before races end, normally by a number of other riders.

I don't want to be one of those sandbagger guys.
I just want come up to speed (literally and figuratively) as my skills develop, and be racing amongst my laptime peers. Again, I generally don't even run well enough to be out of the bottom couple people amongst other novices. Often times out circulating all by myself, too far behind to see, or learn from even the other slow, but still-quicker-than me novices. That state of affairs will be much worse with me in "amongst" (read: well well behind) the experts. Lastly, I don't feel it's safe for either me, or other experts who should rightly expect a certain level of knowledge, consistency and predictability from other white plates. I can't wait to be an expert one day. It's a strong goal. But I want to earn and deserve it, and be ready and safe in it.

I hope the powers that be will review this decision _before_ the next season. I hope that they will look away from mini results (especially just F7) and look at both laptimes and finishes. And on the latter, if you see a 3rd, note carefully that there were only 4 or 5 people, and two of them ran off the track.

Again, I support and understand the whole idea.
But I think the criteria maybe have been either poorly selected, or have been made in too blanket of a fashion (mixing mini and big bike results --- in one of them I look pretty cool, in the other like an idiot. I fear the latter is more representative)

Lastly, remember, I'm the one that can type and spell (usually) and Timmy the one that can ride.
Promote him, not me [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

The five stages of grief are:
1-Denial-"this can't be happening to me", No crying. Not accepting or even acknowledging the loss (of Novice Status).
2-Anger-"why me?”, feelings of wanting to fight back or get even with the BoD, blaming them for you having some talent.
3-Bargaining-bargaining (spelled w h i n i n g) often takes place before the loss. Attempting to make deals with the BoD members, or attempting to make deals with God to stop or change the loss (of novice status). Begging, wishing, praying for it to come back (This one is spelled A p p e a l L e t t e r).
4-Depression-overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of status as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb.
5-Acceptance-there is a difference between resignation and acceptance. You have to accept the loss, not just try to bear it quietly. Realization that you’re Still gridding up with friends. Realization that your Novice days are over, that it is not the fault of the Club, they didn't promote you without reason. Finding the good that can come out of the pain of loss, finding comfort and healing. Hold on to the fond memories of your Novice racing days, But embrace your new beginnings.

The five stages of grief are:
1-Denial-"this can't be happening to me", No crying. Not accepting or even acknowledging the loss (of Novice Status).
2-Anger-"why me?”, feelings of wanting to fight back or get even with the BoD, blaming them for you having some talent.
3-Bargaining-bargaining (spelled w h i n i n g) often takes place before the loss. Attempting to make deals with the BoD members, or attempting to make deals with God to stop or change the loss (of novice status). Begging, wishing, praying for it to come back (This one is spelled A p p e a l L e t t e r).
4-Depression-overwhelming feelings of hopelessness, frustration, bitterness, self pity, mourning loss of status as well as the hopes, dreams and plans for the future. Feeling lack of control, feeling numb.
5-Acceptance-there is a difference between resignation and acceptance. You have to accept the loss, not just try to bear it quietly. Realization that you’re Still gridding up with friends. Realization that your Novice days are over, that it is not the fault of the Club, they didn't promote you without reason. Finding the good that can come out of the pain of loss, finding comfort and healing. Hold on to the fond memories of your Novice racing days, But embrace your new beginnings.

Congrats to all.
Remember you weren't bumped because you are the fastest but rather because you are not the slowest. Lap times combined with your continuing improvement over the year finishing position and who you raced for that position were all factors. Of course, your ability to get around the track safely at speed weighed in all of our recommendations. There was nothing arbitrary or malicious about our decision.

Congrats to all.
Remember you weren't bumped because you are the fastest but rather because you are not the slowest. Lap times combined with your continuing improvement over the year finishing position and who you raced for that position were all factors. Of course, your ability to get around the track safely at speed weighed in all of our recommendations. There was nothing arbitrary or malicious about our decision.

Hi Chris,

thanks for the note. I for one sure don't think there was anything malicous, or anything but the best intentions involved. Possibly some oversight though.

I'll spare anybody (and myself) the public agony of a long list of my poor finishes, but suffice to say my finishes, on big bikes, when judged against other novices on SVs, are generally in the lowest quartile, and often in the lowest 10%, and more than one in the lowest 5% or dead last among riders on the same bike. Again, I'm usually straggling way behind all the other SVs even amongst other novices. Does that sound like an expert to _anyone_

I'd be glad to share a list of just how low my finishes were

I sure wish someone who made the decision would look at my finishes and laptimes on a big bike.
I'd be glad to provide such a list, which I've already compiled, to make it easy on the powers that be. It's too embarassing to publish here [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Who does one talk to on this issue?

thanks
roger

Hi Chris,

thanks for the note. I for one sure don't think there was anything malicous, or anything but the best intentions involved. Possibly some oversight though.

I'll spare anybody (and myself) the public agony of a long list of my poor finishes, but suffice to say my finishes, on big bikes, when judged against other novices on SVs, are generally in the lowest quartile, and often in the lowest 10%, and more than one in the lowest 5% or dead last among riders on the same bike. Again, I'm usually straggling way behind all the other SVs even amongst other novices. Does that sound like an expert to _anyone_

I'd be glad to share a list of just how low my finishes were

I sure wish someone who made the decision would look at my finishes and laptimes on a big bike.
I'd be glad to provide such a list, which I've already compiled, to make it easy on the powers that be. It's too embarassing to publish here [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

Who does one talk to on this issue?

thanks
roger

Roger and Tim,
I understand your grief. In 1992 I was moved to expert for finishing top 5 on a YSR50 racing in the mini class. The whole reason I was racing a mini is because the previous year on a big bike I finished behind last place and someone told me I could hone my skills on a mini and then try big bike again. I could not believe it! I complained and begged and threatened, but to no avail. Connie just told me I was fast enough and the experts would only make me faster. I cried BS! Then I realized I had a choice; Quit the club or race as an expert. I did not want to quit, all of my friends were racing. So I saddled up and began 1992 as an expert on a 1989 FZR600. I would like to tell you I went straight to the top, but some people have been around long enough to know I was lying. The truth is I have never won a single expert race on a big bike, but I had a lot of fun and after 15 years I am still around. Oh, by the way, I have a couple of Thirds and a whole lot of Top 5's as well as a thousand laps of Expert Endurance. The point is take this for what it is...fun. Get your bikes ready and go race. Maybe you'll win! But if you don't so what. Is that all you are here for anyway? Congratulations !

Roger and Tim,
I understand your grief. In 1992 I was moved to expert for finishing top 5 on a YSR50 racing in the mini class. The whole reason I was racing a mini is because the previous year on a big bike I finished behind last place and someone told me I could hone my skills on a mini and then try big bike again. I could not believe it! I complained and begged and threatened, but to no avail. Connie just told me I was fast enough and the experts would only make me faster. I cried BS! Then I realized I had a choice; Quit the club or race as an expert. I did not want to quit, all of my friends were racing. So I saddled up and began 1992 as an expert on a 1989 FZR600. I would like to tell you I went straight to the top, but some people have been around long enough to know I was lying. The truth is I have never won a single expert race on a big bike, but I had a lot of fun and after 15 years I am still around. Oh, by the way, I have a couple of Thirds and a whole lot of Top 5's as well as a thousand laps of Expert Endurance. The point is take this for what it is...fun. Get your bikes ready and go race. Maybe you'll win! But if you don't so what. Is that all you are here for anyway? Congratulations !

While we are at it, you shouldnt be able to ride big bike endurace for umpteen years and then come out as a sprint novice. Big bike endurance should count as well.

While we are at it, you shouldnt be able to ride big bike endurace for umpteen years and then come out as a sprint novice. Big bike endurance should count as well.

Christopher, how do you monitor which rider is riding the endurance bike at any given time during the race?

Christopher, how do you monitor which rider is riding the endurance bike at any given time during the race?

When do I get my 1 call?

When do I get my 1 call?

Ms. Selleck,

I have only gripes, no solutions. You must have confused me with someone who is actually helpful.

Ms. Selleck,

I have only gripes, no solutions. You must have confused me with someone who is actually helpful.

I clearly read in the 2006 CMRA Rule Book:
"The Novice rider must have entered at least 15 races to be included in consideration for advancement. The CMRA Board of Directors will determine the number of Novice riders to be advanced each season, and the Rider Index will be announced following the last race of each season. Riders with a Rider Index at and above the announced Rider Index are automatically moved up to Expert the following year."

Also, any Novice who wins a Class Championship is automatically moved up to Expert. Riders may decline advancement via writing or email to CMRA if they feel they are not ready to compete on the Expert level, and may or may not be allowed to retain Novice status pending review of the rider's performance and finishes by the BMRA Board of Directors.

That being said...the posted rider index was announced as .6. The list was generated and those meeting the index requirement were granted a promotion to Expert status.

What is the rider index, as decided and posted at the end of the season?

So....In my case....I didn't meet the rider index, didn't participate in at least 15 races in the Novice classes....what supports the BOD decision to move me to Expert?

Also....I didn't get my call....Let's discuss!

I clearly read in the 2006 CMRA Rule Book:
"The Novice rider must have entered at least 15 races to be included in consideration for advancement. The CMRA Board of Directors will determine the number of Novice riders to be advanced each season, and the Rider Index will be announced following the last race of each season. Riders with a Rider Index at and above the announced Rider Index are automatically moved up to Expert the following year."

Also, any Novice who wins a Class Championship is automatically moved up to Expert. Riders may decline advancement via writing or email to CMRA if they feel they are not ready to compete on the Expert level, and may or may not be allowed to retain Novice status pending review of the rider's performance and finishes by the BMRA Board of Directors.

That being said...the posted rider index was announced as .6. The list was generated and those meeting the index requirement were granted a promotion to Expert status.

What is the rider index, as decided and posted at the end of the season?

So....In my case....I didn't meet the rider index, didn't participate in at least 15 races in the Novice classes....what supports the BOD decision to move me to Expert?

Also....I didn't get my call....Let's discuss!

> Ms. Selleck,
> I have only gripes, no solutions.
> You must have confused me with someone
> who is actually helpful.

[img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img] [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

> Ms. Selleck,
> I have only gripes, no solutions.
> You must have confused me with someone
> who is actually helpful.

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i don't think its that bad of an idea, other than catching people off guard. hopefully it'll even out the grids a little bit (numbers wise) and make for better racing at the back of the expert pack. sort of a way to add an intermediate group without actually making a new class and taking up more time during the day. although it does kind of suck for those that will miss out on a year of novice trophies and contingency money.

if it were me in that position, i'd go for it.

i don't think its that bad of an idea, other than catching people off guard. hopefully it'll even out the grids a little bit (numbers wise) and make for better racing at the back of the expert pack. sort of a way to add an intermediate group without actually making a new class and taking up more time during the day. although it does kind of suck for those that will miss out on a year of novice trophies and contingency money.

if it were me in that position, i'd go for it.