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My rear tire warmer failed before race 13 on Sunday at TWS, leading to a very embarrassing warm-up lap crash. So now I want to make sure I have a good set. What do you recommend? (Not cheapest, hopefully not most expensive, but a good set at a reasonable price.)
Thanks in advance.
Love my moto d
So far, I've been very pleased with my Moto-D dual temp warmers. They seem solid, are easy to use, and the company is still small enough that their customer support is pretty good. I feel a bit like a goober wearing Moto-D socks and undersuit liner and sporting their warmers, but it's all decent quality for my money.
moto-D ftw. they have an industry leading replacement policy. 1 year no questions warranty regardless of whatever. they also will replace the warmers once free of charge if you screw them up somehow, like in my case, accidentally putting the bike into gear with the warmers on. oops.
Crap....sorry about that Kyle!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fox
I've been pleased with my Moto D's over the past few years...I would warn you on the dual temps; hi/lo/off...easy to screw up. The single temps will be my next purchase...the duals are easy to screw up if you're not diligent.
Allen, what is it you find confusing? Perhaps they've updated since your purchase. You do need to pay attention on mine, but it's not difficult. Toggle switch of "II O I" or something like that. There is a light indicating if it has power, but it does not indicate anything else, like if the switch is set to On or if it's reached full temp (to my knowledge). Even with this and other "smarter" warmers, I check with my hand. Warmers fail. Kyle would have been far less screwed had he checked :)
Yikes, didn't know you crashed on the warm up lap for that race. My Woodcraft front failed after a year (right before a race too), so I've switched to the Moto Ds. Not much time on them, but people seem to be pretty positive about them.
And whatever warmers you decide to get, make it a habit to put your ungloved hands on the tires when you take the warmers off so you know if they've actually heated up or not.
I was not aware of that. My Moto-D rear recently started leaving huge cold spots on the tire, and I already bought replacements. I'll shoot them a line, though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael McGehee
Thanks for the recommendations. I'm running MotoD's and will go back to them.
It was truly a stupid error on my part. But in my defense, I didn't check the tire pressure or even put my hands under the warmer (as I normally do) because some older guy started talking to me as they were calling the race and kept talking even after I (a little rudely) just walked away from him at 3rd call. I told him about 6 times that they were calling my race and I had to go, but he just kept on explaining how he could make my CBR250 faster. I even put in my earplugs and put on my helmet and gloves while he was talking. I should have just been rude and walked away after 1st call. My mistake. (If I were a more competitive rider, I would have thought another rider sent him over just to screw up my pre-race routine.)
And now for an ignorant question - What is the low temp setting for? I've never used it on my existing MotoD's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Allen Dye
Any thoughts on Vortex warmers? I haven't seen them much at the track.
If your next race is, say in 3 hours, but you want to keep heat in the tires without roasting them; viola.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fox
For when you and your buddy are splitting a generator, and kinda-warm tires are better than cold tires :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fox
Some rain tire manufacturers also suggest using a low setting on tire warmers, especially if it's a warm day and the water on the track won't cool them off too much. See Pirelli's info on their rains (under technical advice) where they recommend a warmer temp of 122 degrees. I believe the 'low' setting on the moto-Ds is 130 or 135, which is pretty close.
I like the Capit's, they have worked very well for me, no more tire issues after I bought a set.
I've had numerous sets of tire warmers and by far my favorite are the chicken hawks. Can't go wrong. John Hutchinson w/ SCRC is a vendor, too.
Chicken Hawk without fail. They've been doing it a LONG time and have incredible customer service should you need it. Also remember that the carcass isn't fully warm until you can feel the heat in the wheel spokes. Hutch is a wealth of knowledge for this stuff.
Chicken Hawk.
I have a set of chicken hawks bought on 3/20/2014 and the rear warmer quit sunday morning. Those were my first set of warmers so no idea how long they usually last, just figured I would throw a data point out there.
Capit
Guaranteed for 3 years
• Uses Teflon Heating cables (10 times longer life then silicon heating cables)
• No electronic or mechanical devices used for heater element (reduces risk of failure)
• Requires only 650W per pair compared to 1000W for typical tire warmers
• 100% waterproof inside and out
Because I'm not that smart Josh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Henke
I've seen some pretty positive reviews...no negatives...hard to pass especially if you have a deal with them...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fox
I have been using the warmers from SVRacingParts.com with no issues. Full digital warmers with 3 settings (Rain/Standby at 155 or Race at 178 or Cold/Windy Day / Endurance Race at 194) for $200 (+ $20 shipping).
http://www.svracingparts.com/store/#...=0&sort=normal
I had dmp? Tire warmers or was it dmt? I think that's a hallucinogenic drug so I think it was dmp. Anyway they only worked for like a year and stopped working. I sent the one that wasn't working back to them, they said they couldn't fix it so they offered a warmer half off or something.
I just bought brand new chicken hawks I, those have been working really well for me. I got the ones with the low med high switch. I feel like the ones with the temp gauge are just an extra thing that can break.
I was looking at the Chickenhawks - the single temp pro line heats to 203 degrees. That seems excessively hot to me. Any thoughts?
we talked with the vortex guys at the AIM convention 2 years back when they first release them.. they are made in the same factory as chicken hawks. seen good reviews on them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fox
the duel temps are actually quit nice for us Texas weather guys. a perfect example to use them would have been at TWS this last weekend when it ws 43 in the morning. i use the low setting to get my pressures more close to what they would be on a cold track.. i used a pyrometer this weekend and during the 8am practice sunday core rubber tire temps never got over 100 until the track surface went over 60 which didnt take till about 10pm. It took one of our guys running a sub 2 minute lap around 11 to get tire temps over 160..so a warmer set on high gets to around 185... you set pressures.. go ride.. and they actually drop because of the cold. with low setting it wont drop as much. Mine go on high once we have sun on the track or its in the high 50's and i know my pressures wont change drastically by the time the start flag drops.
Thank, Matthew. Good info.
Here's a cool video from Scott at MOTO-D. https://youtu.be/8u344x0SRS4
I'm sending my old warmers in to him to get tested and see what happened. Great service and help.
I've been using Chicken Hawk since late 2013 and I've had absolutely zero complaints. They have worked flawlessly. Pole Position (3 temp) version.
When the track temp is over 110 (most of the year for us). I like to run the warmers on a higher setting as it puts the tire closer to the working temp and thus cuts down on the amount of heat gained from the warmers, to the track. Obviously, its nice to be able to turn them down on cooler weekends, thus why I like the adjustable warmers.
Thanks, John. Very helpful. (By the way, we need a simple "Thanks" button on the posts.)
There's a hack for that, but I'm not sure there's enough demand to warrant it. It was conceptualized to combat post boosting, which isn't a problem here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Fox