"UPDATED" 2019 SEASON SCHEDULE!!

Enjoy!!

Important Note: The June MSRH event has been moved to June 28-30

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Thanks for getting this released so early!!!

I'll second that thanks - it's really helpful to have the dates for those early rounds available before the holidays, so those of us whose vacation schedule is based on fiscal year can plan out how much we love our families vs. how much we love racing :)

I'll ask what's probably on everyone's mind, though: is this finalized, or is the club still trying to get a 9th (or 10th?!?) round on the schedule?

Thank for the early schedule, could you tell me which dates are for ULW Endurance?

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Originally Posted by Carter Rossner

I'll second that thanks - it's really helpful to have the dates for those early rounds available before the holidays, so those of us whose vacation schedule is based on fiscal year can plan out how much we love our families vs. how much we love racing :)

I'll ask what's probably on everyone's mind, though: is this finalized, or is the club still trying to get a 9th (or 10th?!?) round on the schedule?

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There is a small chance of a 9th round but its very small.

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Originally Posted by Scott Cunningham

Thank for the early schedule, could you tell me which dates are for ULW Endurance?

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Working on that now.

Jeeez Walter....could you be any slower at releasing next year's race dates? :lol:

Thanks for all you do! :hail:

Thanks Walter!

I love you, Walter

Thanks Walter!

Thanks Walter! Your on top of your game!

Thank you Walter !

You are AWESOME !!!!

Thank you guys this helps!

Can we please get at least 1 CCW in Cresson?

Thanks Walter

Good work WW and the BOD!!

Too early to ask how many ULWE rounds are expected?

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Too early to ask how many ULWE rounds are expected?

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very soon...….

Great! Thanks!

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Originally Posted by Walter Walker

very soon...….

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Thanks Walter. Hugs

Bump!

First post UPDATED and finalized!

So any chance there will be another class for the R3, Ninja 300, and 390?
If we have two 500 classes and the F3 class rules change to allow 400"s "I think I read this somewhere or Walter said it in a riders meeting" that's three classes the 400 will be competitive and only one class "ULWGP" the 300's will be competitive in. Two classes that are specific to the Ninja 250's.
ULWGP was the largest grid in the expert class last year and second largest in the Novice class last year.
Maybe if we add another class for the ULWGP folks, we can increase race entries.

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Originally Posted by Scott McDaniel

So any chance there will be another class for the R3, Ninja 300, and 390?
If we have two 500 classes and the F3 class rules change to allow 400"s "I think I read this somewhere or Walter said it in a riders meeting" that's three classes the 400 will be competitive and only one class "ULWGP" the 300's will be competitive in. Two classes that are specific to the Ninja 250's.
ULWGP was the largest grid in the expert class last year and second largest in the Novice class last year.
Maybe if we add another class for the ULWGP folks, we can increase race entries.

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are you suggesting maybe 300 sstk and a 300 sbk ? Side note: i'll bet ya ulwgp wont be the biggest grid next year.....

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Originally Posted by Danny Dominguez

are you suggesting maybe 300 sstk and a 300 sbk ? Side note: i'll bet ya ulwgp wont be the biggest grid next year.....

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Whatever we can do to get at least two classes that's competitive for the 300s.
I bet your right, but looking at last years numbers there's more members that own ULWGP bikes than any other bike in the club. We might as well get them another class and make a dollar while doing so.

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Originally Posted by Scott McDaniel

Whatever we can do to get at least two classes that's competitive for the 300s.
I bet your right, but looking at last years numbers there's more members that own ULWGP bikes than any other bike in the club. We might as well get them another class and make a dollar while doing so.

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request submitted

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Originally Posted by Danny Dominguez

request submitted

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You da man!!!

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Originally Posted by Scott McDaniel

So any chance there will be another class for the R3, Ninja 300, and 390?
If we have two 500 classes and the F3 class rules change to allow 400"s "I think I read this somewhere or Walter said it in a riders meeting" that's three classes the 400 will be competitive and only one class "ULWGP" the 300's will be competitive in. Two classes that are specific to the Ninja 250's.
ULWGP was the largest grid in the expert class last year and second largest in the Novice class last year.
Maybe if we add another class for the ULWGP folks, we can increase race entries.

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Another vote for a second 300 race, if possible...


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Originally Posted by Ryan Max Johnson

Another vote for a second 300 race, if possible...


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+1 vote

Woohoo! I'm diggin the two Hallett endurance rounds.

Someone fill me in. What’s the most competitive bike in F3?
Will it be the 400 next year?
Would the 300’s be more competitive in F3 or 500 SS/SB if there isn’t an additional race added?

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Originally Posted by Rusty Grant

Someone fill me in. What’s the most competitive bike in F3?
Will it be the 400 next year?
Would the 300’s be more competitive in F3 or 500 SS/SB if there isn’t an additional race added?

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Foe F3: A 400 will probably be the most competitive.. However someone could dust off a 125c gp bike and it would clean up.

Here are the rules:

Machine limits per formula category rules unless otherwise noted.
Unlimited displacement 2 & 4-stroke singles unless otherwise noted.
Up to 125cc 2-stroke Grand Prix machines
Up to 396cc 2-stroke water-cooled twins
Up to 410cc 2-stroke air-cooled twins & triples
Up to 560cc 4-stroke water-cooled multis
Up to 570cc 4-stroke air-cooled 4 valve per cylinder multis
Up to 600cc 4-stroke air-cooled 2 valve per cylinder multis
Up to 700cc 4-stroke water-cooled twins
Up to 900cc 4-stroke air-cooled twins
Up to 1200cc 4-stroke air-cooled pushrod twins
Among the eligible machines, EX250, EX300, RZ350, RD400, EX500, GPz550 and
Hawk 650.
Air cooled two valve per cylinder Ducati 900, Yamaha FZR400, Honda CB1, Triumph
Thruxton 900, and XR1200 are allowed.
250cc 2-stroke GP replica machines Aprilia Cup RS250, TZR, NSR, RGV, etc. are allowed
but limited to Superstock mods.
No SV650, no Ninja 650R, no Ducati Supermono, no Aprilia 4 stroke V-Twin, no 250cc GP
machines allowed.

Jordan, we are changing the structure of the F3 class. Next year and this years structure will be completely different.

[QUOTE=Ryan Max Johnson;350217]Another vote for a second 300 race, if possible...


I thought ULGP was going getting two races with qualifying. Did I completely hear wrong?

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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Originally Posted by John Hutchinson

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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Agreed!!

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Originally Posted by John Hutchinson

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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Spot on!

It would be nice to get the 250/300/400 scenarios sorted out asap so we can make the right decisions to get ready for the season. Thanks in advance.

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Originally Posted by John Hutchinson

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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“AGREED”

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Originally Posted by John Hutchinson

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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+1...and allow reasonable mods to the 250s to bring them closer to the 300s


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Originally Posted by John Hutchinson

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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Makes sense +1

How many 400s raced in 2018? I think I saw 2. If there are more, cool. If not, I appreciate preparation, but seems risky to structure so specifically. Perhaps the hope is 300s will fill in the gap in the 400 classes til ten, assuming they’re permitted to race up. Otherwise, I’m sure John’s proposal is fine, judging by the response. I’ll race whatever!

a number of folks have purchased and are building Ninja 400s, myself included.

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Originally Posted by John Hutchinson

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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No big deal for the 15-20 that competed last year, FFS. You've help me make one decision.....

FYI - I know more people that have bought 250's to race next year than 400's

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No big deal for the 15-20 that competed last year, FFS. You've help me make one decision.....

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I was speaking in terms of leaving the # of classes the same. If truth be told, 3 classes per bike size would be the most fair. That would add 1 more class for the 250, and 2 more for the 300's. Not sure Walter can fit that much extra in the daily schedule, but it would be nice.

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Originally Posted by John Hutchinson

IMHO the only fair thing would be to structure 3 classes for the 400 and 3 classes for the 300's. I know that will isolate the 250's but face it, there are not many in the club anymore. So 500SS, 500SB and F3 for the 400's and up. Then ULGP, ESS and ESB for the 300's and down. That makes it fair, both classes have a real shot at winning the class #1.

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if you have 3 classes were you can run an sbk 300 vs a ss 400 that'd be fair.. Like F3 + Sb500 + ULGP make the ulgp allow for sbk300s. We had grids in expert of 10+ in the 250 class. 250s vs 300s are no comparison.

Actually Jay ran 1:50s on his SS250 at the last round which would have been fast enough to win the ULWGP race. I believe we had some sort of performance committee that was mentioned last year with Jim C and Steve U. Have we consulted them? There's a pretty large performance advantage between all of these bikes. My only problem with the current schedule is there's only one class the ULWGP bikes will be competitive in vs three for the 400 and two for the 250's. All that really needs to happen here is make that F3 class another ULWGP class "opposed to a 400 class" and I believe most people will be happy.
On a side note. There are more ULWGP bikes owned by members of the club than any other bike. If we are screaming about not making any money, why not have three classes for the most owned motorcycle in the club?

Have we already figured out the the Ninja 400 is as fast or faster than the 500’s?
If ULW is going to be a “Premiere Class” from here on out, seems like there should be 2, 2, & 2.

2 races for 250’s - ESS & ESB
2 races for 300’s - ULWGP & F3
2 races for 400/500 - 500SS & 500SB


Can someone enlighten me on whether or not the Ninja 400’s are as fast as the CBR 500’s??

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Originally Posted by Rusty Grant

Have we already figured out the the Ninja 400 is as fast or faster than the 500’s?
If ULW is going to be a “Premiere Class” from here on out, seems like there should be 2, 2, & 2.

2 races for 250’s - ESS & ESB
2 races for 300’s - ULWGP & F3
2 races for 400/500 - 500SS & 500SB


Can someone enlighten me on whether or not the Ninja 400’s are as fast as the CBR 500’s??

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Yes, the 400s are significantly faster than the 500.

The CBR500 is strangely slow. Faster acceleration than R3, but just barely.