All dates are now confirmed and final!
Note: NOLA has moved one weekend earlier to March 13-15
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All dates are now confirmed and final!
Note: NOLA has moved one weekend earlier to March 13-15
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Is April looking like MSR Cresson? Or, contrary to the other thread, maybe sneaking an ECR in there or something else? :D.
Heartland Park?? I know the drive for the deep south Texas guys/gals is horrible but with ECR not wanting us there our track supply is limited.
Its a "new" track for most meaning they haven't been. Its always fun and beneficial to go to new places to better your skills.
Maybe do the 8hr there....
I like that the image file has "North American Race Schedule" in the name. I guess we'll be getting the international schedule later? :biggrin:
It's already international, we race outside of Texas :D.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloan Essman
I like the track, despite the very long drive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dominguez
Let’s put barber in that schedule. Make it double points weekend for insurance.
A little context on the file name. This is a very trimmed down version of a spreadsheet that I use to manage season scheduling. The original goes back over 15 years and it includes ALL motorcycle roadracing events scheduled in the US each year. It includes Amateur (WERA, CCS, MRA, CMRA, etc.) and Pro events (MotoAmerica and its predecessors AMA Pro and AMA Superbike) as well as World Championship events (MotoGP, World Superbike) held in the US. We do this to avoid overlaps and conflicting dates. Most people think that we just pick our dates out of thin air but it actually takes quit a bit of juggling to put these schedules together each year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloan Essman
Barber has actually been working very hard to get us a date for 2020. Unfortunately the repave this season has delayed their scheduling until well past our deadline for finalizing our 2020 schedule. I feel good about 2021 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Klesel
No problem... let's just see if COTA is available that day. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Walker
Awesome stuff Walter. Keep up the good work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Walker
We can do a three day event at Barber for what one day would cost us at Circuit of the Americas!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bob Moyer
and it would be a much more fun track to race at. COTA is an F1 track, Barber is a motorcycle track. COTA has clear advantages for horsepower, I'd rather see tracks where the rider is more of a factor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Walker
Agree 100%!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Stewart
You had me at hello. I haven't raced there for a few years so it would almost be "new" for me too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dominguez
Thank you for getting this out early, it really helps out!
Agreed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael De Simone
Thanks for all your hard work Walter. It's greatly appreciated! Excited to race in Kansas if given the opportunity. :thumb:
Yeah come on up to Heartland ParkQuote:
Originally Posted by Ron Mears
60 miles from my house and a titty bar bout a mile from the track
Why aren’t we welcome at ECR?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dominguez
That would be a question for the owner of the facility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve Wilson
Probably because they know how bad a cmra event can destroy the bathrooms in a matter of minutes. The additional cost of hazmat team cleanups and all.....
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Unfortunately that's not far from the truth. The previous owners of ECR provided very little service during our event weekend (Lack of trash cans, emptying existing trash cans, restroom cleanup, etc.). Combine that with the large turnouts that we had at ECR and it looked like we trashed the facility. The new owner has only heard that the CMRA trashed the facility.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Snyder
Well, when you have ONE working shower... That's what I remember!
Any word on which weekends there will be Endurance races. Us retired folks gotta plan our trips around it. Or maybe it is posted somewhere else and I missed it. Thanks.
Walter,
At the riders meeting you stated a change was made to the NOLA date. Does the schedule as found at the beginning of this thread now reflect that change?
Thanks!
I think it does because there is a note about it above the image.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Caruso
Well, you got my vote!Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael De Simone
LolQuote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Caruso
cannot please all people all the time, but I expect my elected board to work harder for me to race in my region...Barber is fantastic, but when we have ECR and a costly COTA directly in heart of region, I'd expect more work there than extending cost to members by going further out of region to race.
It does. I had a copy of the original printed out and it was moved for the update today.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joseph Caruso
Your elected BoD gives the final approval on each seasons schedule but they leave the actual negotiations to me. I can assure you all that I work very hard to put together each seasons schedule.Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek Thomas
At one time we had more venue options but with OHR, TWS, and ECR closing that all changed. The truth is this, the newly reopened ECR doesn't want us and we cant afford COTA. Both of these truths will hopefully change in the future but until it does we got what we got. As for Barber, we can do a three day event there for slightly more that what we would pay for one day at COTA. With our license reciprocation policy we will likely have a huge turnout at Barber.
The reality is that with no new tracks coming online in our region and competition for the available dates at our existing tracks ramping up we are forced to look at venues that are outside of our region. This is just the new normal.
Thanks for the reply!
Sounds like you should run for the BoD!Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek Thomas
Be easy on Derek, he has every right to expect the CMRAs managing body to work hard for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Stewart
Then theres a reason why and I believe someone else asked why we think that way.
I try not to get into the politics, and I wont claim to know and I try to stay away from the CMRA rumor mill. All I'm asking is we do what we can for the members to ride as much and as cost effective as we can. IF it's a personal beef, a misunderstanding, whatever it might possibly be...I expect we re-eval and try and resolve. IF that's been done, I understand...not many people building tracks! Barber is absolutely a magnificent motorsports racing venue and experience....no doubt! It's just a really long way and with the economics of the club, the primary way to ensure a profitable weekend is to have ULWE there. Assuming that's a probability, that means NOLA and Barber...two long trips for most teams. I guess if I endurance I'd be more passionate about it.
most people dont want me at the track, they sure dont want me on the board...besides, WW says they dont make these decisions anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cody Stewart
If we pitched to ECR that the CMRA (Riders) would pony up for additional dedicated cleaning staff for trash and RR's on the race weekend might they reconsider? It seems like additional expense from a local janitorial company could be offset by an "ECR premium" to have a race that satisfies all geographically, and damn sure cheaper than expenditures with pulling race rigs to AlaBAMA. May also get people to straighten up and be considerate. I have "heard" that even nice tiddy clubs have restroom attendants. ;)
brainstorming here.... whatever it takes to get back in ECR.
I think some of you misunderstand that the only reason for ECR not wanting us is that we have a reputation of trashing the facility. It's more than that. Its my understanding that motorcycle racing doesn't fit their current business model. Other track owners have started out with the same idea about their tracks and found that to make ends meet they had to open up to racing. It just takes time. When ECR originally opened it took two years to for CMRA to get a date there. And for the record we already pay a hefty clean up fee at every facility that we visit and that included ECR under the previous owner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greg Wanless
As for Barber, depending on your location in Texas Barber is only 2 to 4 hours further than NOLA. Also IF we had gotten a date at Barber it would have replaced the NOLA round.
I'm personally not thrilled about a potential Barber date. Not that my opinion matters really.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Walker
While correct the drive to Nola for me is 9 hours straight up drive time but factor fuel stop, pulling trailers etc reality is about 11 hours considering I usually go by myself and don't have a relief driver. I stop to move around for a few minutes every couple hours. Barber is 15 hours considering the same. Not to mention both drives are on some knarly roads that just plain wear you out. Not to mention all the big city traffic going to barber I don't go to Nola for these same reasons.
Heartland park is 10 hours for me but a much easier drive without too many major cities
Long story short Barber would mandate at least one extra vacation day 2 if I wanted to stay all day sunday and race afternoon races. I get 40 days a year vacation all of which are currently used for CMRA and since I don't have a mon-fri job, sat and sun count for me
Barber is awesome and yes we would likely draw from other orgs but in the spirit of being regional club racing org Heartland could be a better option.
Just my worthless pennies worth of opinions
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Very good points on Heartland Park.Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Snyder
Do we know what weekends will be endurance weekends? Looks like every other month, except last. But I dont want to assume. Really need this info to help me make some decisions. Thanks!
:cheers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek Thomas
Thank you Walter!
Any updates on what weekends are endurance rounds? Also is the weekend format changing?
Coming soon!Quote:
Originally Posted by Michael Klesel
How bout now? Are we there yet? Now? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Walter Walker
Have you and/or BOD decided the fate of T60 and Superteams...I've received a bit more interest in Superteams now that they have a better understanding of the simple rules .
By a bit more interest, do you have an approximate guess as to how many you think would actually follow through with it and sign up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dominguez
52yrs of living 28 yrs on police dept, I can tell you for sure you never know what people will do or follow thru on what they say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeremy Harvey
But had 4 at the last round at MSRH and 2 more at the final Superteams race at MSR, after I took over the microphone and better explained the rules at the trophy presentation, ask. I also feel that solo 30 and superteams would increase if the sat/sun schedule went back with ultralights/mini on sat and big bikes on sunday
I also feel that solo 30 and superteams would increase if the sat/sun schedule went back with ultralights/mini on sat and big bikes on sunday
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