We will update the remaining dates and venues as they are confirmed.
FEB (TBA)
APR 1-3 HMRC
APR 30 - MAY 1 MSRH
MAY 27-29 HMRC
JUN 18-19 MSR
AUG (TBA)
AUG 27-28 MSR
SEPT 30 - OCT 2 HMRC
OCT 29-30 MSRH
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We will update the remaining dates and venues as they are confirmed.
FEB (TBA)
APR 1-3 HMRC
APR 30 - MAY 1 MSRH
MAY 27-29 HMRC
JUN 18-19 MSR
AUG (TBA)
AUG 27-28 MSR
SEPT 30 - OCT 2 HMRC
OCT 29-30 MSRH
RIP Nola... that makes me sad
Couple of Eagles Canyons would be outstanding! Although February might be a bit to early for N Texas.
September only has 30 days, not 31
I don’t know what you’re talking about. :bannana:Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel Linker
Thanks Walter !
Hallett backwards again would be awesome!!! I’ll argue it’s 1000% less dangerous than msrh! ��
I can agree he likes to ARGUE 1000%!Quote:
Originally Posted by Dustin Dominguez
Hallett reversies seems safer than MSRH any direction. Watch this rear-facing video from earlier this year to get some sense. Maybe play it in reverse if you can
https://youtu.be/-IZt64aPa0s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IZt64aPa0s
I want to do hallett backwards. Dose sound safer and intresting.
Agree on the Hallett backwards idea if possible. I've done it a couple times at track days and it's a blast!
I have not personally ridden Hallett backwards due to the hazards at the bus stop and how close the wall is exiting turn 1 heading to start finish, but maybe it is worth re-evaluating on its own merit. With that said I don't think the logic of "we already have 1 dangerous track so why not add another risky option" is the best way to go about it.
From 2007 to 2011 we did run Hallett both directions. After several serious incidents we went back to CCW only.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Coles
The serious incidents were in the exact locations Kyle noted.
In T3 there are two major concerns. First is the location of the corner station. In a crash both rider and machine will end up in the station (this happened). The second is a run off crossing the track at the exit of T3 (this also happened).
In T1 there is a lack of runoff. There is less than 20 feet from the edge of the track to the tire wall. That tire wall covers a fence that is backed up to a berm that is a retaining wall for the tracks septic pond. In a strait off crash a rider and machine can end up over that tire wall and fence (this happened). In a late crash the rider and machine will likely end up in the tire wall or worse over the tire wall and in the septic pond.
To be fair ALL racetracks are dangerous. That being said I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kyle Coles
Good to know. Is air fence not sufficient?
I have been a victim of the turn 1 run off tire wall etc...twice! Not a fan
IMHO...3 HMRC dates will deter a lot of Houston and surrounding area folks to not go to at least 1-2 of those rounds. At a minimum 9-10 hours and the results of the current poll for premium race tracks, Barber @ 10-12 hours or COTA @ 2-3 hours seems to be a more viable solution. I'm merely speculating on the folks I know around the Houston area and what HMRC rounds they have attended in the past.
Dirk, I feel the opposite and have heard from all CMRA guys I have discussed schedule with that 3 Hallett rounds bring smiles to faces of all my friends in DFW.
How do you think those in north Texas, and moreso, those north of the red river have felt about FOUR rounds at Houston this year and THREE each of the 3 years before that? It sucks, but they can't accommodate everyone. Houston racers have had it the easiest for awhile now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dirk Anderson
Very few Houston riders have been turning out anywhere except Houston, even with 3 rounds there. And that's only if the weather looks good.
I drive from tulsa. All the Houston rounds are difficult for me. so i get where they are coming from. We have guys in Oklahoma/Arkansas/kansas that only make the Hallett rounds too but if they only needed to drive to Houston once or twice in a season, they might be more inclined to race more of the series.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Smith
Turn one is not exactly a "safe runoff" in the CCW direction either. (That tire wall will always have a piece of my heart... and legs... and back.)Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny Dominguez
As noted, none of this is "safe," per se. So I'd be down to run it CW for a change of pace. But with the pavement as bumpy as it is now, I'm not particularly excited about Hallett either direction. But I feel similarly uncompelled to run MSRH for the same reasons. (I'm completely agnostic about track location.)
Joel, I was referring to only the folks I know in Houston, I never said anything about DFW. The people in the DFW area have it the easiest as they are basically in the middle of HMRC/MSRH, I would expect those people to be fine with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Joel Linker
I'm sure a lot of them share your sentiment. I live in Houston and I don't even like going to MSRH, never really cared for the layout. I don't have a dog in this fight anyways and was just mentioning that when the turnout isn't what was expected and fees go up again, maybe there are other alternatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steven Smith
True, weather plays a big factor but I would surmise that happens everywhere. Don't know a lot of people who like racing in the R.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasey Lewis
So, now that you have been accepted to the BOD maybe you could come up with some ideas on how to solve low turnout.
And as mentioned with the latest poll results, there might be alternatives out there.
Walter - Any idea when the TBA's may be firmed up or a cutoff date that if it isn't firmed up by dd/mm/yy, then we are going with the alternative?
Any updates on the TBA dates? I realize these things take time to iron out, just trying to plan as far ahead as possible for next year.
The 2022 schedule will be finalized this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathan Entz
Awesome! Thanks for all your work!
Is ECR official?
Are the DATES on the schedule page confirmed? Cuzz they slightly differ from the dates on this thread.
Need to schedule vacation time asap.
Confirmed schedule posted HERE!
Thank you Walter!! [emoji1360]