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    Quote Originally Posted by Steve McNamara View Post
    Sometimes bikes go through tech and it doesn't matter who the inspector is , things get missed.
    You don't seem so concerned about it now. So why fire the CTI?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Partee View Post
    Being new to CMRA I can say I am unbiased since I don't know anyone really. Working for nonprofits, corprate and government I can say a paper trail of counseling on an employee is a requirement when letting someone go. If there are no counselings in writting then one must reconsider the termination timeline until such counseling is completed with an action plan. This gives the employee a chance to make corrections and the employer the ability to either see the corrections were made or use the couselings to justify termination. This keeps all parties involved on a level playing field and avoids issues like this.


    How do you handle contract labor that is not classified as an employee?
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    You can use just cause but it better be for an agregous act and even then it should be explained not just to the employee but to the members. A member nonprofit still must answer to it's members. I've yet to recieve a formal explanation from the CRMA to their position. It's also to late. Prior to termination the official position must be prepared. The termination conducted and the official position published to the members within 24hrs. This just keeps things orderly and mitigates fall out. My short time in CMRA has given a perception of screw roberts rule of order, buisness best practices and lessons learned for a version of South Park "Whatever I'll do what I want!".. We need to tighten our shot group and get back to basics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Hodges View Post
    You don't seem so concerned about it now. So why fire the CTI?

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    If I am selected to be Chief Tech inspector, we will be doing a 42 pt checklist and we will put those paper tab stickies on each safety or silicone'd part. Then we will double check the stickies against the checklist to insure that every single item was covered. Set aside about 15 minutes for tech inspection. Thank you for your future patience. Bring your belly pans, we will be pouring in the tech req'ed ammt to see if it will hold the said required ammt of liquid. Better safe than sorry! Add a few more mins to your wait. Thanks again for holding!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gooding View Post
    How do you handle contract labor that is not classified as an employee?
    You should always follow what's right. Always counsel in writting so you protect yourself and the organization. Just because you can do it doesn't mean it's the best thing to do. Anyone can bring legal action and doing things in the right order may not eliminate a legal action but can mitigate it. I'm not a lawyer, just culminating my buisness and organizational experiences both good and bad over the last 25+ years.

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    If we overlook one section of the rulebook then the rest of it starts to look like a joke as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Hodges View Post
    If we overlook one section of the rulebook then the rest of it starts to look like a joke as well.

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    I agree, my platform is all about taking the time to inspect, and re-inspect every part. That's what I'm running on! How do we discipline those that miss a part or two for inspection? Perhaps a public hanging?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gooding View Post
    I agree, my platform is all about taking the time to inspect, and re-inspect every part. That's what I'm running on! How do we discipline those that miss a part or two for inspection? Perhaps a public hanging?
    Now I'm interested. What credentials do you have? I have personally performed hundreds of aircraft preflight inspections with even more mishap free flight hours. I think I know a little bit about safety inspections....

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    I'm with Ben. After you've passed inspection (don't forget your leathers and back protector), we'll seal your bikes in quarantine, not to be touched until your race is called.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cliff Partee View Post
    You should always follow what's right. Always counsel in writting so you protect yourself and the organization. Just because you can do it doesn't mean it's the best thing to do. Anyone can bring legal action and doing things in the right order may not eliminate a legal action but can mitigate it. I'm not a lawyer, just culminating my buisness and organizational experiences both good and bad over the last 25+ years.
    Thanks for the advice, see you at Cresson in less than 2 weeks. I'll need your counsel and expertise on how I terminate my lawn people. Should I give the guy weed eating a proper counseling, with a 3 week action plan to re-visit his issues? The guy that mows only speaks Spanish, I guess that I need to hire a translator for his action plan! I'm lost over here!
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