UPDATED! 11/23/13 2014 Rule and Class Structure changes

[Walter Walker]

I know you meant that but is that in reference to every race bike or just the classes mentioned (the new ones).

All race machines in all classes!

[Jeremy Harvey]

As for the things be considered list
1) yes rider and bike

This I would happily say only bike. As my other half would tell you, for the smaller riders, it can be difficult to safely add a lot of ballast to a bike to make bike/rider minimum weight. Something to consider. I know different series, but that rule basically knocked her out of running in ASRA Thunderbike. She would have had to add something like 60 lbs to the 1000DS to make weight. I don't know how you'd safely add that much weight to a bike.

[John Black]

Sorry John, but no other machines will be allowed in these classes at this time.

The GS500 and EX500 will still be allowed, yes?
If they have been raced previously, then the majority have had mods done that might push them outside of the spec nature of this class... Specifically chassis mods and perhaps a piece or two cut off... Things that made those dinosaurs handle decently but probably still not the match of a modern bike... What is your feeling for those bikes?

[Tom Anderson]

Ok, somehow I got lost here...

Formula 4:
The four stroke displacement limit will be raised to 180cc. The two-stroke displacement limit will be raised to 112cc.

250 Superstock:
The class rules will remain the same as its predecessor ESS. The only addition will be that F4 machines will now be allowed in 250SS.

So now F4 is not going to include the baby Ninja or any of the bikes that formerly ran the F4 class?

That doesn't make sense when you say this:

The displacement bump for F4 machines is intended make the true F4 machine more competitive with the EX250s. As of right now with riders being equal they are not. We are only talking about a 12cc bump for 2 strokes and a 30cc bump for 4 strokes. These mods are available in kit form.

If the EX250 can't run F4, why is it important to make a "true F4" bike more competitive with the EX250?

Also now my Aprilia RS125 is only going to be legal for the 250 class to race in? To me, and probably only me, the RS125 is the perfect bike for F4 and then can race up to the 250 class.

[Walter Walker]

Ok, somehow I got lost here...


So now F4 is not going to include the baby Ninja or any of the bikes that formerly ran the F4 class?

That doesn't make sense when you say this:



If the EX250 can't run F4, why is it important to make a "true F4" bike more competitive with the EX250?

Also now my Aprilia RS125 is only going to be legal for the 250 class to race in? To me, and probably only me, the RS125 is the perfect bike for F4 and then can race up to the 250 class.

Tom, I can see how this is a bit confusing since its out of the context of the actual rulebook.

To clarify.

The F4 SPRINT CLASS will be unchanged from this season other than the increase in displacement limits that I announced earlier today.

The EX250 will not be allowed in F4 ENDURANCE.

[Walter Walker]

The GS500 and EX500 will still be allowed, yes?
If they have been raced previously, then the majority have had mods done that might push them outside of the spec nature of this class... Specifically chassis mods and perhaps a piece or two cut off... Things that made those dinosaurs handle decently but probably still not the match of a modern bike... What is your feeling for those bikes?

John, no other machines will be allowed into the 500 Superstock class. This will be a CBR500 class only. If another manufactures steps up with a competitive 500cc machine we will consider adding it to the class. We already have several other classes that the machines you mentioned fit in.

[Danny Dominguez]

Now i'm confused..even more so than normal,is this applying to just the sprint race? or endurance,sprint,practice,rolling to tech?? I know there are atleast 4 ex 500 being prepped for the lightweight endurance. and 1 gs500..

John, no other machines will be allowed into the 500 Superstock class. This will be a CBR500 class only. If another manufactures steps up with a competitive 500cc machine we will consider adding it to the class. We already have several other classes that the machines you mentioned fit in.

[Tom Anderson]

Tom, I can see how this is a bit confusing since its out of the context of the actual rulebook.

To clarify.

The F4 SPRINT CLASS will be unchanged from this season other than the increase in displacement limits that I announced earlier today.

The EX250 will not be allowed in F4 ENDURANCE.

Thanks Walter!

To get to my specific interest though, the RS125 Aprilia will only be able to run the 250 class in endurance/ sprint, and will not be eligible for the F4 class in any race, correct?

[Kasey Lewis]

Update:

300 and 500 Superstock:
We are leaning toward making these classes full spec classes. The following rules will spply if we go thiis route.
1) engines will be inspected and sealed at the season opener or upon entry into the series.
2) only spec exhaust systems or slipons will be allowed.
3) only spec fuel management systems will be allowed.
No quick shifters.
4) fork internals and shock may be modified or replaced with aftermarket. Suspension linkages must remain OEM.
5) handlebars and hand/foot controls may be modified or replaced with aftermarket. Mastercylinders must remain OEM.
6) bodywork may be replaced with aftermarket.
7) drive chain and sprockets may be replaced with aftermarket.

Things being considered:
1) minimum weight
2) spec gearing
3) spec fuel
4) spec tire (not likely for the 2014 season)

As someone who has struggled with the current "Superstock" 250 class (I use that term very loosely) I would love to see this actually happen. It seem like unless I'm willing to dump 1-3 grand into a 250 engine I can't be competitive. I'm not saying skill isn't a huge factor as well, but lets mitigate piles of cash racing into something more appealing.

And no fair racing against Becka, she's like a jockey Jeremy! Fat Kid Class please.

[Chris Cullen]

As someone who has struggled with the current "Superstock" 250 class (I use that term very loosely) I would love to see this actually happen. It seem like unless I'm willing to dump 1-3 grand into a 250 engine I can't be competitive. I'm not saying skill isn't a huge factor as well, but lets mitigate piles of cash racing into something more appealing.

And no fair racing against Becka, she's like a jockey Jeremy! Fat Kid Class please.

In for a Fat Kid class.....