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Thread: Ninja 300 False Netural/Shifting Issue

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    Ensure that the shifter is in a good position to be fully engaged when depressed or pushed up on. I had problems with mine and made an adjustment to the shifter and had no problems after. (miss shifts that is)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jordan Pence View Post
    Ensure that the shifter is in a good position to be fully engaged when depressed or pushed up on. I had problems with mine and made an adjustment to the shifter and had no problems after. (miss shifts that is)
    Good one, I've goofed with that back and forth, ill need to see what the best way to go is.

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    Kasey,

    All 3 of our 300's have the same issues. One of them is brand new and the other two have minimal time on them. I about highsided one at GSS the other day because it downshifted mid corner at full throttle. I do not know of any long term fixes other than to undercut the dogs which isn't legal in SSP.

    Oh and as far as oil goes I use M1 R4T in two of them and I don't know what John uses in the other. I highly doubt that is the issue.

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    Well damn, I'm glad you said that, I was set to pull the engine tomorrow for just that. I just figured it was a safety issue. Oh well, glad to know we're not alone!

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    It has started concerning me more and more. I honestly don't know what to do about it at this time.

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    If you have a product concern which may be time sensitive, we highly recommend calling Kawasaki Consumer Services at 866-802-9381.

    http://www.kawasaki.com/ourcompany/ContactUs.aspx

    Call or send them an email about this matter... its the only way to instigate a recall.

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    This is not an issue I would expect under normal operation. I wouldn't bring up a race issue on a bike built for economy.

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    I agree, but they labeled this bike as a Ninja and I want Ninja like properties....... Like black colors, moving silently in the shadows, and have ninja stars coming out the front and rear. I also had the same problem at GSS going through a high speed corner and it down geared on me without warning. I'm still gonna call and see what they say about it.

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    Jumping gears full throttle is dangerous and now I am concerned. We are starting to have an issue as well and thought it was the clutch or something that happened from the bike going down. He falls enough as it is so I like to ward off known issues and will definitely contact Kawasaki about it.

    Thanks for the suggestion Brad, I appreciate your input. Just to be clear... does that shift pro kit fix the issue and is it a permitted mod?


    Quote Originally Posted by Kasey Lewis View Post
    This is not an issue I would expect under normal operation. I wouldn't bring up a race issue on a bike built for economy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Angela McWilliams View Post
    Jumping gears full throttle is dangerous and now I am concerned. We are starting to have an issue as well and thought it was the clutch or something that happened from the bike going down. He falls enough as it is so I like to ward off known issues and will definitely contact Kawasaki about it.

    Thanks for the suggestion Brad, I appreciate your input. Just to be clear... does that shift pro kit fix the issue and is it a permitted mod?
    I can't speak for Walter but I don't think he would have an issue with this modification. I suggest having a conversation with him. At the last ECR round I was coming out of turn 2 in the LW endurance race approaching a 300 at a pretty quick clip when the rider had a shifting issue. I barely avoided a collision, it was extremely close and I don't think it would have ended well had we collided.

    All I can say is Factory Pro has been making shift kits for motorcycles that have sold very well for years. I don't own a 300 but I do ride the 250 which exhibits a similar problem however the 250 does not have the same type of internal shifting mechanism. The 300 shifter was updated to be more like bigger bikes which by the way is a better system in my opinion.

    There are several things that could contribute to this issue and some have been mentioned already.

    1. The external shift set-up is important. The angle of the knuckle on the shift shaft should be as close as possible to the angle of the shift pedal actuation arm. Imagine you are standing on the left side of the bike looking at the shift rod.

    I_____I , /_____/ and \_____\ work best.

    \_____I , /_____I , I_____\ and I_____/ are okay.

    \_____/ , /_____\ are not optimal.


    2. The heim joints need to be free to move and not in a bind. I’ve seen these jammed all the way to one extreme or the other when adjustments are made to the shift rod. The joints must have some room to rotate.

    3. Eliminate as much free play in the external shifter/rear sets as possible caused by any loose bolts or nuts.

    4. The spring on the internal shift mechanism that helps maintain the selected gear is often not up to the task of racing. This is where the Factory Pro shift kit may help. The stiffer spring makes it more difficult for the conditions experienced in this thread from occurring.
    Example of internal shift parts:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voi70IqJJfM
    Last edited by Brad Thomas; 05-08-2014 at 02:47 PM.
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