UPDATED! 11/23/13 2014 Rule and Class Structure changes

[John Black]

no... he just grabbed a number off the googlewebs... the HP for the 500 is equally exaggerated...

[John Redford]

I think he means the 300s have 39hp.

300 is 34-35 stock, I'll take a dozen of those too!

[Staton Shed]

300 is 34-35 stock, I'll take a dozen of those too!

I'll be your huckleberry.

My "250" makes at least that much power (maybe )..PM me for the sale price.

[Joe Rodriguez]

*runs off to price shop velvet ropes

...i got'em in bulk !!!
Muahahaha

[Michael De Simone]

lol

I'll be your huckleberry.

My "250" makes at least that much power (maybe )..PM me for the sale price.

[Brian Millsap]

I think he means the 300s have 39hp.

Yes, that's what I meant though I'm sure some if the 250s I've seen are putting down more than 39HP.

no... he just grabbed a number off the googlewebs... the HP for the 500 is equally exaggerated...

Sorry. I don't own a 300 or a 500. Yet. so yeah, I get my numbers from the interwez. Did you personally dyno these bikes? If not, where are you getting your number from John? How do you know they're exaggerated? And if they're equally exaggerated then wouldn't they still be equally disproportionate?

All I'm saying is that I race 250s because its way more fun than the big bikes. I thought it was cheaper until motors started blowing up and some crashing "happened". lol It is more fun though either way though. But now the line is being blurred. The 500 is not in the same class as a 300. Period. I'll reluctantly make the bump to the 300 but I'm not going to a 500. Just ain't gonna happen. If i want to race big bikes I'd race my big bike. That's my personal stance. Not saying it's right or wrong. It is just my stance. And by the looks of things, my unwillingness to drop the $$$ or up the displacement will exclude me and my team from a chance an overall win for the season. I guess that's the price we'll have to pay. I thought with the huge turnout of 250s we'd secure a place in the club. Yet last year with the 'true' minis (that never showed), and this year with the new 300/500 it's been the 250 class that's been whittled at. I just don't get it.

[John Black]

The fact you posted those numbers shows that you are not quite sure what is actually going on... No biggie...

It is obvious that you are relatively new to the sport and that is okay as well, but, know that there was racing before 2010...

I believe that there is a place for true minis as a learning tool for the little dudes that are coming through the ranks... I also believe that what has happened in the club and the industry as a whole is not necessarily what is the best for a youngster in terms of coming up through the ranks... As a long term racer and as a parent of a little dude that has chosen this sport it concerns me... I also know that Walter is also in the same boat as me as far as bringing a child up through the ranks...

Not sure exactly where I am going with this as vitamin v is in full effect tonight, but, believe you me when I say I am a fan if more racing than less and I want more bikes on the grid than less... I also believe that if you have never ridden a real race bike then you are missing out on one if the true real joys of this world...

Mitch for president in 2015!!!!!!!

[David Kobierowski]

Brian Millsap, per your quote: "I thought with the huge turnout of 250s we'd secure a place in the club...I just don't get it."

I trust in our leaders. I don't think the CMRA is going to damage this hugely successful class (at least not knowingly). Too many of us have enjoyed 250s, loved them, invested financially big time into them, and will be racing them for many more years.

Seeing the grids grow from around 10-12 last year to 28 this year has been incredible to witness first-hand. This class is nationally recognized, so much that a top 250 rider from CA visited our series this past season to race against us...knowing our racers are among the most talented in the country, with the fastest growing class of 250s in the nation.

Yea, so we'll have to endurance alongside 300s, 500s, and some faster F4 bikes. BIG DEALl!! A veteran racer predicted that we'll see talented 250 riders beating many 300s and even some 500s next year. I love that!!!! I look forward to seeing it!!!!

NEXX Helmets will be racing a 250 next year in the endurance. We'll be going for the podium in class.

Is it Feb yet?!

[John Redford]

I'll be your huckleberry.

My "250" makes at least that much power (maybe )..PM me for the sale price.

That's the ONLY 250 I have ever seen that may exceed 39 hp. FTW!!

[Brad Thomas]

A 39 hp ninja 250 raced in the CMRA this year?

Our 250's, Desert Brats (Endurance) and my sprint bike fall into the 30-31 hp range that most others I've raced against do. They both have aftermarket pipes and jet kits, that's all the motor work. I really don't think there are a bunch of cheater 250's out there, I can think of a few that may be but for the most part I think everyone is within the rules.

Dyno Shootout: Honda CBR250R vs. Ninja 250 vs. Ninja 300
http://www.cycleworld.com/2012/10/05...300-dyno-test/

40 hp Ninja 300
http://www.kawasakininja300.com/foru...0-40-2-hp.html