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    In the pits

    I've seen two absolute boneheaded mistakes in the pits this year and am wondering why....are penalties not stiff enough or are we just that absent minded. With all the discussion about speed limits, and safety in the pits, etc, I've seen a bike running backwards on hot pit and an attempted refuel while the bike was still running. In addition, I've seen a bike crash and not come in for a couple laps....was it leaking fluids, etc...while it circulated....who knows. But seems, to me anyway, these incidents have much bigger potential implications than speeding in he pits.

    To me, infractions like these are lap losing ones, not seconds in the pits. I assume anyone and an team can make these mistake but the ramifications seem too lenient to me.

    Just an observation from a Team owner, rider, and spectators position.

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    Agreed. And to think that some got bent when I gave warnings...
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    last weekend i saw a cmra official helping a team with crash repair....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Davis View Post
    last weekend i saw a cmra official helping a team with crash repair....
    Was it a red bike?

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    I saw the bike crash and not come in. It was a confusing bit of circumstance. It appeared as such: rider was fine, bike started up, official who visited him at crash site told him to take off but rider thought that meant "you've been teched and you're good to go." His team told him to pit in as soon as they realized he wasn't coming in, so he came in.

    I saw a rider come in for what appeared to be a required roll-thru and then they tripped 36mph on the radar on exit. Didn't see anything come of that. Didn't pay attention long to see if there was follow-up, didn't really care.

    Thought it was a pretty good weekend. Few crashes, no red flag on endurance, and people generally seemed to be having a good time.
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    Those looking for perfection should consider another sport.

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Redford View Post
    Those looking for perfection should consider another sport.
    Golf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Josh Henke View Post
    I saw the bike crash and not come in. It was a confusing bit of circumstance. It appeared as such: rider was fine, bike started up, official who visited him at crash site told him to take off but rider thought that meant "you've been teched and you're good to go." His team told him to pit in as soon as they realized he wasn't coming in, so he came in.

    I saw a rider come in for what appeared to be a required roll-thru and then they tripped 36mph on the radar on exit. Didn't see anything come of that. Didn't pay attention long to see if there was follow-up, didn't really care.

    Thought it was a pretty good weekend. Few crashes, no red flag on endurance, and people generally seemed to be having a good time.
    The rulebook says a crashed bike and rider cannot be teched on the race course; they must be inspected by a qualified official (meaning Nancy in registration isn't the official to look at your bike, but any official working the pits is) in the cold pits or on hot pit road. When I come upon a crashed bike on the track, I do my best to inform him or her to get the bike teched before re-entering the race. This communication is not always stated in words, though, because of circumstance, or understood because of circumstance. It's on the rider to know the rules, but officials always try to help when they can.

    I talked to several speeders on the weekend, and had my own radar gun in hand. The CMRA's radar gun at pit exit was acting wonky, so some folks got a pass that normally wouldn't. They likely got a visit from an official to closely monitor speed, though.

    I can't speak with regard to the official working on a bike. I'll point and advise and even try to catch a falling bike (that's a safety thing), but I'm not going to tape, wire or wrench on your bike when it's in for repairs. You gotta fix it yourself. The other officials are of the same direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Linz Leard View Post
    The rulebook says a crashed bike and rider cannot be teched on the race course; they must be inspected by a qualified official (meaning Nancy in registration isn't the official to look at your bike, but any official working the pits is) in the cold pits or on hot pit road. When I come upon a crashed bike on the track, I do my best to inform him or her to get the bike teched before re-entering the race. This communication is not always stated in words, though, because of circumstance, or understood because of circumstance. It's on the rider to know the rules, but officials always try to help when they can.

    I talked to several speeders on the weekend, and had my own radar gun in hand. The CMRA's radar gun at pit exit was acting wonky, so some folks got a pass that normally wouldn't. They likely got a visit from an official to closely monitor speed, though.

    I can't speak with regard to the official working on a bike. I'll point and advise and even try to catch a falling bike (that's a safety thing), but I'm not going to tape, wire or wrench on your bike when it's in for repairs. You gotta fix it yourself. The other officials are of the same direion.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jesse Davis View Post
    last weekend i saw a cmra official helping a team with crash repair....

    We had our team crash right at the exit of rattle snake. he was able to get Ryan to help him push it in. The only damage was a twisted clip on. after a quick adjustment, we had an official help us locate where we should put the new transponder. Our transponder had a weak signal and needed to be replaced. The official was showing us where to put it. My transponder showed 3 green blinks after we took it off, so i am not sure why it was giving a weak signal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jose gutierrez View Post
    We had our team crash right at the exit of rattle snake. he was able to get Ryan to help him push it in. The only damage was a twisted clip on. after a quick adjustment, we had an official help us locate where we should put the new transponder. Our transponder had a weak signal and needed to be replaced. The official was showing us where to put it. My transponder showed 3 green blinks after we took it off, so i am not sure why it was giving a weak signal.
    wasnt referring to your team, for the record.

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