"Updated!" Provisional 2015 CMRA Schedule

[Will Zamora]

Walter has a vaild point. The way we currently run, your exit speed of Joe bone on the straight is greater than it would be coming out of Sugar and Spice headed in the opposite direction. At least they're working towards minimizing the risk.

Cody, may people learn the track the weekend of the event. This is motorcycle racing my friends, there will be risks.

[Bruce Jones]

I think CCW is more risk because you have braking areas in middle of corners. I just think there will more crashes elsewhere on the track.

[Steven Daughhetee]

We will be there no matter what direction you run, haha.

[Enoc Garza]

I thought it was way more dangerous CCW. Here's what I didn't like. With that said, I guess I'll have to get comfortable with CCW.

1. Going into Joe Bone, there's a huge bump. I tried to take a late entry, almost caused me to tuck the front. I went over the bars, but saved it. If I would have tucked, it would have been into curbing. I hope this corner is cleaned up.

2. Going down the straight leading to diamonds edge, if someone runs straight there, they're going to t-bone those exiting diamonds edge.

3. Accelerating over the launch while leaned over is sketchy, but manageable.

4. If someone runs wide after Gut Check, it will be real bad if they hit the curbing on the left side.

5. Pit in (exiting track) is on the right in a hard braking zone.

6. And of course the wall after turn 17 (sugar and spice).

7. Will the start finish line be moved closer to turn 17?

[Bruce Jones]

I was thinking about that incident Cody, I think it's outside of the Bus Stop.

[Cody Stewart]

Cody, may people learn the track the weekend of the event. This is motorcycle racing my friends, there will be risks.

Like Walter said - it's all about minimizing it.

[Becka Harvey]

Nevermind.

[Staton Shed]

I've ridden it both CW and CCW.

Of course, I am not a "fast guy" but after a few laps, it was fine coming out of Sugar and Spice. Plus you catch some great air at the Launch. Show up Friday, get some practice in and learn something new. It will be fine.

[Chris Coffey]

So let me get this right... CCW is supposed to be less suicidal? Walter can you please explain to me how that is possible?

Lets reference the above track map.

First off the the entry speed to 16/17 is going to be extremely higher. With essetially NO run off and an armco barrier and a building just on the other side of pit road.

Secondly there is NOTHING but a wall on the exit of 17. Not 1/16th of an inch of run off. I don't know if you have the data for this, but the amount of crashes/running wide exiting turn 16 going CCW exceeds exiting turn 1 CW. I would say that the potential for an incident exiting turn 17 going CCW would be similar if not higher than exiting 16 going CW. So the odds of making contact with the wall goes up incredibly. Your entrance to turn 16 is going to be at a higher speed and mid cornerspeed is also going to be higher given the shape of the corner when going CCW so once again your odds of crashing are going to go up trying to scrub that extra speed for 17.

Keep in mind going through 17 when you do it perfect you're gonna be coming RIGHT up against the wall, the margin for error is EXTREMELY small.

I think a point your failing to see is that the danger of the wall is not solely in making contact with it, its the fact that the wall contains everything on the racing surface. If you have a one person incident in turn 17 going CCW is going to IMMEADIATELY turn into a 2+ person incident if the individual is racing with anyone because there is NOWHERE for the rider/machine/parts/etc to go except bouncing off the wall and all over the racetrack.

I don't have the stats on this but my gut feeling says something like 90% of motorcycle racing fatalities are from being run over by another racer.


So yes you are going to be going slower when you hit the wall, but the odds of hitting the wall go up exponentially and the odds of contact by another rider go up exponentially (because of line of sight, time to react, and lack of somewhere to go after you have reacted)



Now lets get to the launch.. That'll be a disaster in and of its self... So lets put a ramp on the race track with a completely blind exit and see how that works out. Use your imagination.







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This seems like a HORRIBLE idea to me. I just can't see a single benefit to running this track CCW. Not one! You're maximizing risk be going CCW.

[Will Shupak]

+1 for CW Hallet
Looking at last corner at MSRH CCW, it reminds me of ECR. Come to think of it, have we ever looked at ECR CW?