2017 Detailed Schedule

[GEORGE SCHAGAR]

George why do you not come up in any searches under that name? No FB, No Google, No Google+, No Physician finder hum perplexing indeed....are you Dave Wonders in disguise? or are you Juris Zagars in real life

I'm curious and inquisitive by nature

It's the same name. Long story short, yes in fact I'm going to drop Schagar and use only Zagars.

[Michael Snyder]

It's the same name. Long story short, yes in fact I'm going to drop Schagar and use only Zagars.

Cool just curious

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[GEORGE SCHAGAR]

If it's not feasible then it's not but I do think they're alternatives that could allowed COTA to be part of the CMRA schedule. Good PR is as good as any reason.

[Michael Snyder]

I can imagine a grom race at COTA going up the hill 🤔

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[Michael De Simone]

I can imagine a grom race at COTA going up the hill ��

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I want to go down that hill on my Grom.

[Sean Gurevich]

Since there's already a proven formula of a national series partnering with a world series event to make COTA a reality, the CMRA can join up with F1. If every Superleg(however you spell the rest of that) owner in the state got a race license and started attending all the CMRA events, the way they attend the RideSmart COTA events, then we'd be going to all the nice facilities. The CMRA would handle all the logistics of shipping our equipment to the away races, like Assen and Silverstone, via air freight containers.

[Sean Gurevich]

I want to go down that hill on my Grom.

Just make sure you don't wheelie in the process or get on the curbs or they'll black flag you.

[GEORGE SCHAGAR]

An empty hotel room brings in no revenue, true. So why can't I book hotel rooms for $1? Oh, because there are fixed costs. Security, corner workers (COTA supplies its own corner workers), fire crews, track wear and tear, and insurance for both the facility itself and the people in it. You mention that many large stadiums host things like high school football games, possibly at a loss. Well, most big-time stadiums are built with state funds, and part of that contract is that a certain number of public events (e.g. high school games) be hosted. If you like, you can lobby the state legislature to lump CMRA races in the state's "major events" fund that helps cover the cost of the MotoGP/F1 races. Other stadiums host smaller events because giving a 16-year-old kid the chance to play for a state championship under the lights is quite a bit different from giving a 40-year-old car salesman a chance to get 7th in a race that 12 people entered.

Also, COTA is not empty as often as you seem to think. There are actually private events out there most weekends. BMW, Mercedes, Audi, Ducati, and many other brands host demo days out there. And they probably pay a lot more than we can offer.

A dollar would be a lost giving, guessing, cleaning the room cost at a minimum 6 to 8 dollars, 30 minutes on average to clean a room. But it does work that way, when you stay at a hotel the person in the next room is likely not paying the same rate you are and for sure the person next to you on the airplane isn't paying the same for his ticket. Each year I get an email asking to volunteer as coner worker for COTA's MotoGP. And CMRA is more the 40 y.o. guy or 50 y.o. it's also where Steve Wise, Colin Edwards, Kevin Schwants, Freddie Spencer, to name some that got started CMRA. COTA can have a go kart races but yet we can't organize a motorcycle race for the premier regional organization?

[Dave Felio]

George why do you not come up in any searches under that name? No FB, No Google, No Google+, No Physician finder hum perplexing indeed....are you Dave Wonders in disguise? or are you Juris Zagars in real life

I'm curious and inquisitive by nature

Not sure if anyone is aware of this, but GEORGE SCHAGAR is an anagram for "HO-RAG EGG RACES".

So maybe that pulls back the veil a bit.

[Carter Rossner]

MotoGP uses volunteer marshals because so many are required (8-10 per corner, and some stationed on straights). There are still plenty of paid staff on hand. I volunteered myself two years ago.

And as others have said, it's not an issue of "can." Obviously, we can. The issue is, "Is it prudent?" Even if we got blistering deal, three days of track rental would probably run in the $50k range. How many endurance teams would compete when the entry fees are $250 or $300/hr? What if we have an incident (accident, weather, or otherwise) that forces races to be cancelled? Each of the last 3 years, we've had an event cut short. Simply put, the risk to the club and the burden on individual members is just too high right now.

Beyond that, George, are you an actual CMRA member? I can't find any George Schagar or Zagars as having held a license or entered a race in the last several years. Are you just a fan?