Underwhelming Flagging

[UglyR6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most people respond well to visually based instruction. A summary of corner working guidelines for the new/inexperienced people working to protect us at the racetrack might be helpful.
</div></div>Blakes suggestion? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

[UglyR6]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most people respond well to visually based instruction. A summary of corner working guidelines for the new/inexperienced people working to protect us at the racetrack might be helpful.
</div></div>Blakes suggestion? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img]

[tinman]

there is a cornerworker meeting both mornings where barry goes over every flag and what one should do in any event. If Blake had listened the day he was there he would know this. barry does a good job at this. What each person picks up from this morning lesson is up to the individual. seems he has lit a fire and walked off.

[tinman]

there is a cornerworker meeting both mornings where barry goes over every flag and what one should do in any event. If Blake had listened the day he was there he would know this. barry does a good job at this. What each person picks up from this morning lesson is up to the individual. seems he has lit a fire and walked off.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Rick Chapman:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most people respond well to visually based instruction. A summary of corner working guidelines for the new/inexperienced people working to protect us at the racetrack might be helpful.
</div></div>Blakes suggestion? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] </div></div>barry does that every race morning allready.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Originally posted by Rick Chapman:
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Most people respond well to visually based instruction. A summary of corner working guidelines for the new/inexperienced people working to protect us at the racetrack might be helpful.
</div></div>Blakes suggestion? [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/confused.gif[/img] </div></div>barry does that every race morning allready.

[Darnell Dorsey]

My 10 year old son had to work corners at TWS to lose his yellow shirt. How much can a 10 year old do working corners? He did hold the flag when I retreaved a knee slider from the middle of the track. But he got an idea of what other people do so he can race. I tried to tell every corner worker "thank you" that has picked my butt up after a getoff. Barry was there Sat. after my son's bike quit and he fell over because he didn't get his foot down. He was there to make sure he was fine. Barry and Claire put in many hours for us to race. Everyone at CMRA work there butts off for us.

Thank you to each and everyone that get in there and works so we can play.

Darnell Dorsey #74 EX
Marcus Dorsey #74 MINI

[Darnell Dorsey]

My 10 year old son had to work corners at TWS to lose his yellow shirt. How much can a 10 year old do working corners? He did hold the flag when I retreaved a knee slider from the middle of the track. But he got an idea of what other people do so he can race. I tried to tell every corner worker "thank you" that has picked my butt up after a getoff. Barry was there Sat. after my son's bike quit and he fell over because he didn't get his foot down. He was there to make sure he was fine. Barry and Claire put in many hours for us to race. Everyone at CMRA work there butts off for us.

Thank you to each and everyone that get in there and works so we can play.

Darnell Dorsey #74 EX
Marcus Dorsey #74 MINI

[Blake]

WOW!!! I'm surprised that my intended point and what I thought were simple friendly suggestions could be so misinterpreted and generate such venomous responses. Let me try to restate my point for those here who seem to want to assign words to my mouth that I did not say and meanings to my words that I in no way intended...

Me see bag flag work. Bad flag work make danger. Danger bad. Me not like danger. Me say look at danger. Me want help fix danger. Me friend. Me say maybe how help prevent danger. Me not blame. Me not slam. Me say Barry good. Me say Clair good. Me like Barry. Me like Claire. Me say Barry and Claire very VERY GOOD!

Me so misunderstood. Me sad. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] Me cry now.

NOT!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] :p

Really, how on earth some of you here can read my statements that "Barry and Claire do an admirable job given their resources. Maybe they could use some additional resources?" and twist them into some kind of character attack is beyond my comprehension. I guess my communicaton skills are severely lacking. I'll try to be more positive and constructive in the futures. Thanks to those here who recognized my true friendly good intentions. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

I can definitely see where I should have clarified my suggestion. By "visual instruction" I was thinking of a few simple basic diagrams showing proper flag person positioning versus various crash locations/situation. I'm certainly no expert in corner working and track safety, but I'd be happy to sketch a few instructional examples for others to critique and improve upon. Once complete and approved by Barry, I'd be happy to provide giant versions printed up and laminated for Barry to use as visual aids during his instructional classes along with smaller laminated individual reference cards for each corner.

If the supply of corner workers for OHR is a problem I'd be willing to create and distribute placards to local moto related businesses, and to some churches and to Kilgore college. I'm sure others local to the other three tracks would be willing to do likewise in their neighborhood.

One more point that I think some here are confused about... Some seem to imagine that the corner workers' most significant contribution is to come to the aid of downed riders. I disagree. It seems to me that by far the most vital and most prevalent contribution made by the corner workers is to warn and protect racers who are approaching a hazardous situation. The main way to do so is to quickly and properly display and position the applicable flag. Am I wrong?

Mr. Dibble,
Thank you for YOUR thoughtful and constructive suggestions.

Peace, love, and lower lap times,

[Blake]

WOW!!! I'm surprised that my intended point and what I thought were simple friendly suggestions could be so misinterpreted and generate such venomous responses. Let me try to restate my point for those here who seem to want to assign words to my mouth that I did not say and meanings to my words that I in no way intended...

Me see bag flag work. Bad flag work make danger. Danger bad. Me not like danger. Me say look at danger. Me want help fix danger. Me friend. Me say maybe how help prevent danger. Me not blame. Me not slam. Me say Barry good. Me say Clair good. Me like Barry. Me like Claire. Me say Barry and Claire very VERY GOOD!

Me so misunderstood. Me sad. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/frown.gif[/img] Me cry now.

NOT!!! [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/wink.gif[/img] :p

Really, how on earth some of you here can read my statements that "Barry and Claire do an admirable job given their resources. Maybe they could use some additional resources?" and twist them into some kind of character attack is beyond my comprehension. I guess my communicaton skills are severely lacking. I'll try to be more positive and constructive in the futures. Thanks to those here who recognized my true friendly good intentions. [img]/ubbthreads/images/%%GRAEMLIN_URL%%/smile.gif[/img]

I can definitely see where I should have clarified my suggestion. By "visual instruction" I was thinking of a few simple basic diagrams showing proper flag person positioning versus various crash locations/situation. I'm certainly no expert in corner working and track safety, but I'd be happy to sketch a few instructional examples for others to critique and improve upon. Once complete and approved by Barry, I'd be happy to provide giant versions printed up and laminated for Barry to use as visual aids during his instructional classes along with smaller laminated individual reference cards for each corner.

If the supply of corner workers for OHR is a problem I'd be willing to create and distribute placards to local moto related businesses, and to some churches and to Kilgore college. I'm sure others local to the other three tracks would be willing to do likewise in their neighborhood.

One more point that I think some here are confused about... Some seem to imagine that the corner workers' most significant contribution is to come to the aid of downed riders. I disagree. It seems to me that by far the most vital and most prevalent contribution made by the corner workers is to warn and protect racers who are approaching a hazardous situation. The main way to do so is to quickly and properly display and position the applicable flag. Am I wrong?

Mr. Dibble,
Thank you for YOUR thoughtful and constructive suggestions.

Peace, love, and lower lap times,