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Wow - If this can get finalized reasonably soon, I will resurrect my endurance team from 2010 (Loose Nuts) for this event. I would be starting from scratch - so will need enough time to build a team, purchase and modify a bike as appropriate and recruit a pit crew. The exciting thing is that it is a blank sheet of paper, right now I am thinking either F2 or Modern Classic.
Let's make this happen!
George Linhart
I have the perfect modern classic bike for sale if you want!
I have two two Brazilian friends that want to get in on this.
Count me in this would be awesome!!
Been chatting with Ronnie Lunsford about this..... He says it should be 30 hours so we can advertise it as the world's longest and toughest race! 25 hours might serve the same purpose. Everything is bigger in Texas.
We have to be able to snag a fleet of light towers somewhere. How many would we need to get good coverage? 30? 40?
It's called headlights brutha
I agree bikes should have headlights but having track lighting would be a ton safer and better.
Like other night racing events, some corners and corner complexes would have some lighting. Not talking about a ton of lighting here. Otherwise, might as well race during the day. Faint of heart need not apply. :)
How about not sprint racing that weekend and have a 12 hour for LWE then the 24 for BBE
And not give the sprinters one last go at tws? As much as I would love to do both a lwe race and bbe endurance race.
1. Teams would be required to provide 1-2 corner workers.
2. Lighting as stated by Tom,
I don't think TWS has enough parking to accommodate everyone that will show up to this!
:)
Interesting.
I might be able to find an old Rat or 4 that might want to join in on an experience of a lifetime. And I agree...if we're going for 24, might as well do 25 and call it the longest motorcycle roadrace in history!
Derek
Desert Rats Racing #47
I agree.......that's genius!Quote:
Originally Posted by Derek Thomas
Then we will need to do a 31 hour race.
Exactly right. Just ask Bill Syfan and Ronnie Lunsford about the 30 Hours of Rockingham.Quote:
Originally Posted by Walter Walker
If we're going that long we might as well make it like an old time dance contest. The last team standing wins.
ISO cheap, dependable Goldwing with Iron Butt fuel tank mod...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron Mears
Olde Skoole Iron Men :hail:Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy Selleck
Isn't that sort of what we do now.
Didn't see him or others answer. I'm not sure, but I think that event got cancelled due to the poor surface at ECR last year. It was scheduled for just before they did the big repairs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason Pettice
Any word on if this is actually goign to happen? My vote would be for a 12hr as others have stated a 24 hr would be kinda expensive. But I would do my best to participate either way. If this is going to happen it would be good to give teams as much notice to get prepaired as possible.
Will, North Carolina has made you soft. Cowboy up and let's ride! 24 or bust!
Wondering about classes that would be permitted to race. Thinking it might end up being non-standard in many regards, perhaps for safety purposes (i.e. I'm considering dangers of liter bike overtaking SV being compounded with poor visibility even with bike mounted lights). Need to start building teams and potentially bikes.
Don't think this event should count toward normal season points, nor should the teams built affect the normal season's teams. This, along with more riders permitted on a team, might also facilitate reduced individual costs and increase the number of people able to participate.
Surely someone would want to document this real life racing drama on film for release in theatres or reality TV.
Maybe it would bring some sponsors?
"THE LIFE AND TIMES OF TEXAS WORLD SPEEDWAY"
TWS HISTORY: http://www.texasworldspeedway.com/ab...s/history.html
Old footage of INDY, NASCAR, ARCA, AMA, WERA, CMRA, IMSA mixed in along the way.
What about inviting A.J. Foyt out to start the race?
My thoughts are:Quote:
Originally Posted by Josh Henke
Classes should be allowed as per usual (MCE, F2, SBC, F1). Having F2 bikes out at night with liter bikes worked fine in other races; the most recent I can recall is the MotoST.
Absolutely this event should count toward normal points. With traditional 10 rounds, and only 8 going toward BBE where we have had all 10 in the past, there's no reason why the season for endurance can't be shortened to 6 or 7 BBE rounds, kept the same with 8, or whatever. It's another endurance round IMO, THE endurance round as far as I'm concerned; like the 8 hour, it's a real endurance race by definition.
Regarding number of riders on the team, what we've done before for the 12 hour mini endurance was to allow a one-race exception to the number of riders allowed on a team. I would think allowing 6, rather than the usual 5, would be perfectly acceptable.
I'm not a decision maker, but I REALLY appreciate the comments and enthusiasm with this project. To that end, just because I don't agree with certain ideas or points of view means diddly. So keep 'em coming, I'm just commenting my opinion.
Y'all wouldn't believe the amount of texts, phone calls, emails, and PM's I've received over this proposal. It's a cool thing. I REALLY hope we can pull it off. Heck, when international racers and other road racing professionals want in on an event like this, you know it's a great thing!
Josh, regarding the SV, left in stock configuration with only large tank, suspension and brake modifications, it could be a race winning machine...
I think this race should be held on its own w/ no relation to the standard BBE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tom Anderson
Reasons:
1. that a 24hour race requires a HUGE commitment that ranges from not only building a bike SPECIFICALLY for this event, but the amount of money required to participate.
2. I think it would be unfair to penalize people that are in the hunt for a class championship that cannot afford to spend the money on such an expensive event as this.
3. Lets say for instance the Villiage Idiots get hit by some dumb *** thats way off line and takes them out 4 hours into the race and the bike gets OBLITERATED and they don't have a back up bike with all the lighting required. This would essentially ruin their whole season because of the amount of points that could have been awarded for the rest of the 20 hours in the race.
4. The rules in this event will be different then the standard BBE.
5. There will be more/different riders on each team in this race than the standard BBE.
6. There will be a ton, if not most, of teams that will be competeing in this event and no other endurance event.
I think this event should be held primarly for fun and as a send off for TWS and should have its own standings. We should have a huge trophies for the top three and another trophy for the 1st place in each class and leave it at that. The kings of the 24hour.
I'm going to safety wire up my old Iron Butt Rally competition bike. I can go about 460 without putting a foot down...just run a steady pace on good old ME880's...yep...
With the exception of #4, there is no difference between this and any other BBE. None. Any of the above can and does happen during a 2, 4 or 8 hour race as well. The only reason #4 is an exception is because the only rule difference (I can presume) would be adding a rider above the normal 5, and racing at night. Otherwise, why would the rules be different?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Coffey
Again, DEVIL'S ADVOCATE here and MY OPINION :thumb: Not trying to argue or make any rules; making rules is going to be up to those who really run the show, not people like me who just think they do... ;)
Please stop referring to it as a 24-hour. It's a 25-hour or nothing.
I thought there is a 30 hour race so we need to do 31 or bust. Either way I am ridiculously excited for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy Selleck
This is the DUMBEST ****ING thing I have ever heard!!!
I'm in
^^This!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy Selleck
You're on my beer drink'n team too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith Hertell
Like those ultra marathoners that run a 100 miles? Would turn into a Zombie race then. :) I am petrified for the corner workers... TWS is tough.Quote:
Originally Posted by David Adams11
Lots of safety wyre needed for this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris Coffey
I got some LED cnnections at work to brainstorm with that may have some solutions.
Looks like they even added some oil to the bike at the end...what was that white bottle?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InaRUoGZvWE
Need a lot of support for this one! I really hope we can do something like this! I will work my *** off if needed. Let me know what I can do to help when the time comes.
Rain or Shine! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sWDflygs3w
The old gen EX250's used to use 1/4 qt of oil every 2 hrs. We used to have a dry break connection in the oil cap and use a large syringe to fill it every time we fueled up.
You think an oil change is needed in this? Some oil has to burn up in a 24hr race.
Expect to do 600-700+ laps. Probably not an oil change, but I'd imagine a winning team is going to be very mindful of their oil level, (along with everything else).
...I did 1050 miles in 15 hours-flat once on my Wing, but I'm not putting it on TWS!Quote:
Originally Posted by Staton Shed
i love you, nancy...Quote:
Originally Posted by Nancy Selleck
old school like the old school
Looks like something red bull would want to sponsor.. Lol
Night time noise.
(1)
During the hours of 10:01 p.m. to 6:59 a.m. that when measured from the property line of a residence located in residential zoned property exceeds fifty-six (56) decibels and would disturb or annoy a person of ordinary sensibilities, or
(2)
During the hours of 10:01 p.m. to 6:59 a.m. that when measured from a contiguous interior wall of a residence that is a multiunit residence located in residential zoned property exceeds fifty (50) decibels and would disturb or annoy a person of ordinary sensibilities.
Fortunately Aggies don't qualify as persons of ordinary sensibilities and we have a Village Idiot to prove it.
This facility is in the county and doesn't conform to city ordinances.
It might be city by then. In any regards we could get a permit particularly since it's closing.
I hear you, but in order for the City to annex that area would take a lot more than a few months. Yes, I realize that they could start the process tomorrow, but generally, these things don't get accepted until the fiscal year begins, which is October in the case of City of College Station.Quote:
Originally Posted by William Guthrie
Could it happen? Sure. As it is, the track has already held car races at night (including 24 hour races) in the recent past, so I would guess it's all good and the track will be able to get us lined out.
Saturday night I got a chance to race the Grom under some lights on a kart track at night. It was awesome and has me so much more excited for the idea of 24hrs. It's funny how your brake markers change at night based off what you can see.