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    Sooo the lights never went out and two people screwed up their start. Mistakes on their parts live and learn. I didn't see anything wrong with what happened on the officials part. It was clear that he was motioning to the stalled rider to get out of the way, the two novices were in front of the expert and hence didn't see that.

    On'y thing that could be debated is what did the board say when the stalled rider raised his hand if there was enough time to take care of it before the start and a proper re over could have been done.
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    I can't even see the lights in the video!! Even in 1080, and after watching it a dozen times. I did see the starter waiving the card prior to Jay's start, and shortly thereafter. Jay saw both, and that is why he moved off the track and was going to re-grid. We need to do away the card or the lights!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Napier View Post

    Whoahhh! Those 2 just turned around - on their own - and went AGAINST race direction?!
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    Quote Originally Posted by James Newton View Post
    I can't even see the lights in the video!! Even in 1080, and after watching it a dozen times. I did see the starter waiving the card prior to Jay's start, and shortly thereafter. Jay saw both, and that is why he moved off the track and was going to re-grid. We need to do away the card or the lights!
    Here are the lights and they never went out.



    You can see when Jay and Chris leave the starter points to the lights with the card to indicate they were still lit.

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    It's plain as day. The lights never went out. Rider error.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dean Dufrene View Post
    I don't want everyone to miss the main point, which is the current starting procedure and contingencies need to be thoroughly reviewed.
    After seeing the video I don't think anything needs to be reviewed. It was rider error. The lights never went out therefore the two novice should have never left the line.

    The only thing I could see is that the expert start could/should have been aborted
    Quote Originally Posted by Rule book: Section 3.9 Sprint Race Start Procedures; Pg11
    ...If a rider has a mechanical problem they must raise their hand and wave it vigorously, at which point the Starter may lower the #1 board until the problem is resolved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dennis King View Post
    After seeing the video I don't think anything needs to be reviewed. It was rider error. The lights never went out therefore the two novice should have never left the line.

    The only thing I could see is that the expert start could/should have been aborted
    Hence the 2nd wave should have been aborted!! "Plain as day" Why motion with the card. A second official should have been on the track immediately with a red flag. Has anyone noticed that TWO BIKES in the first wave had issues? The lights did blink briefly at :30.5 into the video. I have had reviewed it more than you can ever imagine!!! You can clearly see me in the red hoodie between the two red track entry barriers watching the lights next to the person in the brown jacket. At roughly :31.5, Jay comes into frame straight up and down on his bike because of the waive off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frank Roberts View Post
    Whoahhh! Those 2 just turned around - on their own - and went AGAINST race direction?!
    Wow! Lucky they didn't hurt themselves and anyone else.

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    Oh come on!! They did nothing different than the two "EXPERTS", except try to re-grid because of what they thought was a directive from the starter!!!

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