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Thread: 2016 New Expert List

  1. #231
    Thanks, I have no issues with experts, mentored and ride with some of the best in CMRA that have taught me so much in a short time. I still need the close racing experiences in a group to be safer. If you watch my video's you will see my failure to commit 100% and timidness on some easy over takes. I just have a lot to work on this season, but even if I'm not promoted, I will ask to be next season.
    Quote Originally Posted by robert duncan View Post
    No Bryan I don't believe you are in this category.its your first real year.
    I think you should enjoy it,and try and dominate every race .just when bumped do the right thing you will be a great addition to the expert ranks even now.

  2. #232
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    I'll chime in since I'm someone who is technically affected by someone sandbagging (aka: I'm not real fast). I've been doing track days for about two year. MSRH last month was my first weekend without a yellow jersey. I'm not running the times Bryan Evans does, despite what seems like a roughly similar amount of track experience. I don't consider that sandbagging at all. I don't think that someone should be forced to bump to expert in their first year (or maybe two) of racing just because they are fast. That robs them of their chance to race for a championship win. Maybe it'll be next year, maybe never, but if at some point I worked my way up to being capable of running a dominant novice championship, I would be pissed if I was forced into the expert class instead of having my chance I had worked for. Sitting around for years, always finishing at or near the top shouldn't be allowed but working your way forward, regardless of if that learning curve takes 2 races or 5 years, is what it's about. Clearly lap times should play a notable role in determining who should be in which class, but looking only at that one factor would be a mistake and unfair to the racer.

  3. #233
    Thanks, bud. Dude you have been working your butt off hard too, and it is showing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Hodges View Post
    Bryan, you are a good friend and your hard work is admirable. I'm going to offer my answers to your questions as I see it
    1. Just do your best and no one can call you a sandbagger.
    2. There's no replacement for seat time and race experience. Everyone should spend the time in novice to hone their racecraft before moving up when they have done just that.
    3. Refer to the rulebook. If no mention of it, then no points ...
    4. Refer to answer 1.

    I wish every racer nothing but the best. Good luck this season! I know your drive to win will give you much success.

  4. #234
    Great insite!!!!
    Quote Originally Posted by Jason Fricke View Post
    I'll chime in since I'm someone who is technically affected by someone sandbagging (aka: I'm not real fast). I've been doing track days for about two year. MSRH last month was my first weekend without a yellow jersey. I'm not running the times Bryan Evans does, despite what seems like a roughly similar amount of track experience. I don't consider that sandbagging at all. I don't think that someone should be forced to bump to expert in their first year (or maybe two) of racing just because they are fast. That robs them of their chance to race for a championship win. Maybe it'll be next year, maybe never, but if at some point I worked my way up to being capable of running a dominant novice championship, I would be pissed if I was forced into the expert class instead of having my chance I had worked for. Sitting around for years, always finishing at or near the top shouldn't be allowed but working your way forward, regardless of if that learning curve takes 2 races or 5 years, is what it's about. Clearly lap times should play a notable role in determining who should be in which class, but looking only at that one factor would be a mistake and unfair to the racer.

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    Bryans a little sensitive, he got pranked yesterday! Lol Bryan definitely doesn't fit into the conversation of "sandbagging".

  6. #236
    You be a funny guy!
    Quote Originally Posted by Yorke Oldfather View Post
    Bryans a little sensitive, he got pranked yesterday! Lol Bryan definitely doesn't fit into the conversation of "sandbagging".

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    ..NOW...if you come out and throw down sub :50s at tws... :17s~18s at cresson.. and :19~20s at Hallet...THEN.. I might say differently. lol.. while I agree a novice season is warranted for any first year sprinter..if your laying down those times in your first year and half of riding at those tracks then you have a gift and need to get out of the novice pack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Evans View Post
    You be a funny guy!

  9. #239
    Under stood. TWS I'm Close
    Quote Originally Posted by Matthew Palmore View Post
    ..NOW...if you come out and throw down sub :50s at tws... :17s~18s at cresson.. and :19~20s at Hallet...THEN.. I might say differently. lol.. while I agree a novice season is warranted for any first year sprinter..if your laying down those times in your first year and half of riding at those tracks then you have a gift and need to get out of the novice pack.

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