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    Totally agree with all of that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Dugger View Post
    ~45-50% of the club's membership is in the "Houston Area".
    ~40-45% of the club's membership is in the "D/FW Area"
    The balance is everywhere else.

    When you do the demographics and critically evaluate turnout numbers, where events need to be and when has a certain clarity to it.

    While the schedule may well be far from a favorite for many, the Board should be acknowledged for a fine piece of compromise considering many factors, including the likely financial performance of individual events and seasonal track costs vs. impact of attendance given the detailed event schedule.
    Then why does ULWE have a 4 month break, since it's performing financially way much better than BBE? Why isn't ULWE given more races. more hrs, it's hot and growing. While BBE is dead around most of the country in other orgs, and is on the decline in our club. 26 hrs of BBE, and 38hrs of ULWE makes much more sense from a financial standpoint. The long term viability and financial health of the club would benefit from more ULWE time.

    ULWE entries that started a race last yr, 200entries X$65hr X32 hrs= $416,000 revenue.
    MSRH 46; MSR 44; HAL 33 ; MSR 40; TWS 37

    BBE entries that started a race in '16, 99entries X$65hr X32hrs= $205,920...thankfully this isn't a for profit business, otherwise all Saturdays would be nothing but ULWE racing. ULWE is twice as profitable as BBE for the club.
    TWS 24; NOLA 22; MSR 18; HAL 19; MSRH 16

    Based on this data, ULWE should be given the best venues and dates for the club as a whole!
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    You beat me to it Ben...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gooding View Post
    Then why does ULWE have a 4 month break, since it's performing financially way much better than BBE? Why isn't ULWE given more races. more hrs, it's hot and growing.
    If I were to make a change in the detailed schedule, I would have given more hours (perhaps swap one of the races?) to LWE vs. BBE.

    I think it makes sense for LWE to be at our most expensive and best attended tracks most of the time, so clearly the Houston and NOLA events should be LWE, in my opinion.

    My comments about the compromise were regarding the complaints about long drives and schedule. Given club demographics, it's not a bad schedule.
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    Playing devils advocate here... last season wasn't everyone trying to figure out how to increase interest in BBE? It's clearly fading away, and even though I don't ride BBE currently, I'd like to in the future and I'd hate to see it die. Maybe this schedule boosts BBE, time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Finning View Post
    You beat me to it Ben...
    You are complaining about long drives, schedule and cost. ADDING an event would only make that more of an issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Dugger View Post
    You are complaining about long drives, schedule and cost. ADDING an event would only make that more of an issue.
    .. i was agreeing partly with Ben's analysis on the numbers.. not about adding extra events... I guess I should have been more exacting in my response....
    Though the drive lengths are a factor as I have said... it's also the impact of those events in a back to back scenario as we now have on a teams budget...
    But no problem.. i obviously am a lone wolf here.. and like Robert said..it will be what it will be.. and I'll have to make my choices accordingly...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Finning View Post
    ....there must be a way to do this which acceptable and fair to all the members...
    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Gooding View Post
    ... Why isn't ULWE given more races. more hrs...ULWE should be given the best venues and dates ...
    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Finning View Post
    You beat me to it Ben...
    C'mon, Scott, surely you see the non sequitur in that logic. You're a better thinker than that. Please, step-back, put on your impartial-hat and try to think like a Director for a few minutes before continuing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scott Finning View Post
    .. i was agreeing partly with Ben's analysis on the numbers.. not about adding extra events...
    But the whole point of Ben's numbers is to support an argument for more ULWE events.


    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Dugger View Post
    ...the Board should be acknowledged for a fine piece of compromise considering many factors.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alan Etheredge View Post
    C'mon, Scott, surely you see the non sequitur in that logic. You're a better thinker than that. Please, step-back, put on your impartial-hat and try to think like a Director for a few minutes before continuing.





    In that you got me...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Robert Lackey View Post
    ...Maybe this schedule boosts BBE, time will tell.

    I was thinking this too. BBE was easily 3 if not 4 times more expensive compared to our LWE budget. Keeping the rounds more central i think would boost BBE attendance due to the lower cost of the travel.
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