I like technology what about you

[David Proler]

If help is ever needed or wanted in the future, I'm happy to help out as an enterprise IT architect. This is one of the many things I do for a living and I'd more than happy to help design and implement no charge.

[Ted Phillips]

It absolutely is wanted and welcome, just as soon as we can get to that point. In addition to Greg Phillips, David Baumgarten, Micheal DeSimmone, and perhaps a few others that we've had conversations together about this, I would love to have external input and insight. We just haven't had time to get to that point yet.

Now for a cheezy metaphor: This is an endurance race, not a sprint.

Again, I have asked in what ways moving from fax/mail/pdf to an online registration system will disrupt the "back-end" process and make things harder? I would like to hear Nancy's unbiased opinion on how much work she has to do with juggling the 3 different mediums of registration vs if it was only 1

Ironic that you would ask this right now. Imagine working your way through 600+ license applications while simultaneously working in concert with Alan on the new awesome pdf forms, only to turn around and be hit will 200+ race entries in a day. That's in addition to everything else that is being handled right now. I wouldn't expect Nancy to have time to even think about answering this until after MSRH, but I wouldn't be surprised at all if she made the time.

Notice how many emails you've been getting from the CMRA office on weekends? That's a clue as to how much workload is being faced currently.

But this aspect is only a small portion of the processes that need to be addressed when looking at online registration.

[Brad Reeves]

I don't know you Greg, but the tone in some of your posts came off a little snarky, sarcastic, condescending, possibly insulting. Maybe that's why some of the guys responded the way they did. You say you want to help while making fun of the process and possibly insulting some of the people involved

[Tom Anderson]

@Tom , why would good people give the middle finger to members when it comes to being on the BOD. Just like any elected official they are there to do the best for the whole and represent the people. If the people can't voice their thoughts and opinions w/o this "backlash" that you speak of then what is the point of saying anything? No one said it has to be done because at the end of the day it comes down to Walter and the board , but if I can't voice a concern on a message board then I don't know what to say.

You missed my point too Greg. The point I made was that these people will not run for the office when asked. Doesnt take much and I know some great folks who refuse to serve any more because of the constant whining and complaining about the small stuff.

Luckily we have a few folks that right now who have thick skins and regect it.

[Greg Phillips]

You missed my point too Greg. The point I made was that these people will not run for the office when asked. Doesnt take much and I know some great folks who refuse to serve any more because of the constant whining and complaining about the small stuff.

Luckily we have a few folks that right now who have thick skins and regect it.

Ah got ya Tom, I have been missing the point in this thread too much. My bad.

I don't know you Greg, but the tone in some of your posts came off a little snarky, sarcastic, condescending, possibly insulting. Maybe that's why some of the guys responded the way they did. You say you want to help while making fun of the process and possibly insulting some of the people involved

Let me know where I made fun of anyone involved or made fun of the process , I would like to review what I said.

[Ted Phillips]

I essentially get yelled at for a living. This is nothing

[Greg Phillips]

SO ITS OK IF I TYPE EVERYTHING TO YOU LIKE THIS FROM NOW ON ?

[Michael Klesel]

i like turtles

[Ted Phillips]

SO ITS OK IF I TYPE EVERYTHING TO YOU LIKE THIS FROM NOW ON ?

I could have sworn I had yelling turned off in vbulletin...

[Brian Millsap]

Patently untrue. Please show me where I have chastised, black listed, or ridiculed anyone.

Please show me where I said you did?

And what does LSTD have to do with anything

They have everything to do with anything CMRA. The million dollar question is why? <---That's rhetorical. Well kinda. I am very aware of the fact that this issue has been discussed at insane lengths and in no way am I'm under no delusion that this question will be truthfully answered in my lifetime.

Pretty soon all of the good people who are prime examples of key leadership are going to hang a big middle finger at the members when asked to be on the BoD.

I guess our example of prime leadership examples differ. Are there good examples on the BoD? Absolutely. Are there bad? Yup. Just like a V8 hitting on 6 cylinders is more than capable of moving you down the road. Doesn't mean it's efficient or that all cylinders are contributing. Some are causing a negative efficiency. And don't ever underestimate someone who is motivated to impose their agenda. ESPECIALLY for monetary gain. Not to mention those who have the driving desire to have influence and power. It's amazing what people will do to fulfill these deep seeded issues.

The club isn't solvent and successful despite all these people's efforts; it's solvent and successful BECAUSE of these people.

Some of them. Sure. I'll agree to that. Same as that V8 being pulled down the road by all 6 cylinders.

Ted is a prime example. The guy's email, texts and phone call volume dealing with Club business is incredible and it's not just him from the BoD that gets it. Ted (and others) didn't garner the clear majority of votes from the membership because of some thoughts on what they would try to accomplish if elected, those are just ideas; he got them because of the kind of person and leader he (and the others) are. People who know Ted know that about him, and voted thusly. If you voted for Ted because of a perception of a promise he couldn't possibly make, well, that's sad and unfortunate.

Perception of a promise? Really?

I can't address Ted's(or anybody else) emails, texts, calls, etc. I have no knowledge of them. What I can address is what percentage of the membership actually vote. Some say that the fact more members don't vote is a shame. Personally, if I don't see a worthy candidate I don't vote. Unfortunately when there is a candidate who was nominated by the inner circle and supported by those who stand to gain from his election and is self serving the members only have two choices. One would be to simply not vote. This assures that his inner circle will be enough to put him in the majority. So the second option would be to block vote. Usually this effort does not work and is a wasted vote. Either way the outcome is the same. Your point about majority vote is absurdly invalid.

I could totally understand if we didn't have a successful program and years of proven success with our racing series, but all the hostility toward the folks that make it successful? Really?

No hostility here. It amazes me how anyone who has a different opinion is automatically hostile. The way I see this thread is that Greg, generously offered help that would undoubtedly help streamline the registration process by bringing it up to at least somewhat current capability. His offer was met with EXTREME hostility.

How are "you" going to handle the same personal work load (of the job that pays your bills) and the expectations of the BoD, plus the perceived expectations of the membership from your glass houses?

Every Bod is given the option to decline their nomination. You can't have it both ways. You can not accept the position and then provide excuses as o why things can't be done. Especially if that was the platform you ran on. No one is forced to serve. And while I am grateful for those who do try to better the club, I am aware that this is an obligation they chose to take on. No pity from me.

As a business owner, I know that excuses do not get things done. New technology, while it might take some time to implement and become accustom to, will almost always streamline processes and, if designed and used correctly, make my life much easier.

Brian will be signing his new book "Making Friends" at MSRH next month. Make sure to grab a copy! It's bound to be an epic read!

Not sure telling the truth is the way to be "Making Friends". My dignity is still in check though.

Ted, Tom, Walter, other BOD members. Please remember it's the unsilent few voicing such strong opinions. It would be easy to forget that a huge majority of the members are very thankful for you... whether they know it or not.

I completely disagree. It's the few that are not scared to stick their heads up and risk the inevitable hammer that is ever so ready to pound them back into submission. The way I see it is, it's the silent majority that agrees.